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What style traler to get?

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Jdman60

04-10-2005 04:04:04

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Well as I posted on the JD board earlier I destroyed my trailer last night because it was too light for my JD 60 so now I need another one. My questions are bumper pull or gooseneck I am leaning to gooseneck, and if so which kind, ball or fifth wheel and why? I don't have alot of money to play with as I just finished restoring the 60 and the reserve is kinda low right now.

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John K

04-11-2005 07:20:10

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

I have gone goose neck on my GN 25 flat deck with beaver tails and also on a 20' horse trailer. The advantage of a goose neck over a fifth wheel is the angel between the truck and trailer is not as critical. That has a lot to do with pulling over uneven ground or through ditches especally when turning. Some goose neck hitches are rated to 30,000 lbs, have not seen a rating like that on a 5 th wheel hitch. Bumper pulles are great for smaller trailers, but I preferr a goose neck or 5 th wheel for backing up in tight spots.

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Indydirtfarmer

04-11-2005 04:00:26

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

You never hear of someone buying a gooseneck, then trading back to a bumper hitch.... There's a good reason why. Once you use a gooseneck, you'll never be satisfied with anything less.

A gooseneck allows you to scale some of the weight on THE FRONT END of the tow vehicle, and not 4' behind the rear axle. SAFER, better braking, more load capacity.

I've owned both. (several of each) Currently I use a Ridgeline 14,000GVW 2-axle, 20'+5'. My son just bought a 20,000GVW Corn Pro. I like the hide-a-ball hitches. much less interference with using the pick-up bed than a fifth wheel.

A gooseneck might cost a few nickels more, but you get so much more for your money.

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Leroy

04-11-2005 03:46:20

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

Would never consider a gooseneck as I have a cap on truck at all times and have a reciever hitch with the load levelers

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John A.

04-10-2005 19:02:08

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

Jdman60,As long as you ar leaning toward a Goosneck style trailer. Then build a trailer that will be with you for yrs to come. So here is MO...
25 ft dovetail, Tandem 10 or 12 K. Axles. Use a DH 2-5/16 Ball. Here in Texas where the Gooseneck trailer originated. There are hundred of thousands of trailers. Most have been pulled succesfully with no accidents. Any trailer can be turned over by just about any reason. So I see no advantage to the 5-wheel design.
All new Gooseneck hookup have safty chains loops. If you old trailer came without chains then chain are not required here, if new...it will have them anyway, so use them.
Also with a standard GN hookup should your truck break down, there is probably a neighbor or relative that has a truck to get you out of your bind. Anyway that is my $.02
Later,
John A.

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old

04-10-2005 12:56:29

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

I'd go with a 5th wheel type. Its the only type trailor that you don't need safty chains on and if you take care of it will out last you. You can also get almost any size of them you want, even to the point that you could haul 2 or 3 tractors at a time. But then you would also probably need a bigger truck.

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Coldiron

04-10-2005 07:49:54

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

I have hauled tractors, hay, junk and gunk for a lot of years. What I have now is a 20` 10K lb tilt trailer with a drop axel, underslung springs that rides low to the ground. It is safe to load and unload a tractor because of the tilt with less angle of climb and easy to work off of because it sits low. It has 16" trailer tires and because of the tall fenders the left one is hinged so a car door can be opened instead of climbing out the window. I have an 8K winch on the front and a plug on the rear bumper for easy power to it. It is a straight flat bed without the beavertail. She is my fourth flatbed and love to haul with her

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04-10-2005 06:38:27

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

here is a 18ft X 8" 4" with 4 ft dovetail we finished last week. owner wanted the 5th wheel simply because he already had a camper.

5th wheel

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04-10-2005 06:40:42

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Bumperpull pic in reply to wh, 04-10-2005 06:38:27

here is a 16ft bumper hitch we built a few years ago. note that the side frame extends all the way to the hitch.

Bumper pull

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Coloken

04-10-2005 06:32:23

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two cents in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

Just my 2 cents worth. P radial car tires are not made for trailers. Yea, used ones are cheap and OK for light loads but get real trailer tires or as least LT pickup tires. Oh yea--read the load limit on them!! The highway patrol will.

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waterlooboy

04-10-2005 06:29:43

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

gooseneck all the way!!,but you need a good hitch that mounts to your frame,and a heavy duty truck, safety first!!!

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jhill

04-10-2005 06:22:10

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

I have a twin axle bumper pull with the deck below the axle like Nebraska Cowmans. Mine is a tilt deck. It works great with my tractors and a 3/4 ton pickup. Goose necks are great but pricey and you lose the use of your bed.

Good dual axle trailers like Nebraskas can be had for around $2000 new in MI.

Get bakes on both axles and new tires and you'll be good to go for a long time.

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Nebraska Cowman

04-10-2005 05:11:01

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

For all-around handy i like a low deck-over bumper pull. I've pulled this one thousands of miles. third party image

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Glenn F.

04-11-2005 06:30:00

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-10-2005 05:11:01

How wide is your trailor between the fenders? What do you do if the tractor/implement won't fit between the fenders? Thanks, Glenn F.

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dr.sportster

04-10-2005 06:14:03

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-10-2005 05:11:01

Can I butt in here with a couple questions.What type of ramps and where are they stored during travel?What does a trailer like that approx.cost?

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Nebraska Cowman

04-10-2005 06:53:36

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to dr.sportster, 04-10-2005 06:14:03

Slide in ramps stored under the deck at rear. I paid about $2000 for this trailer 10 years ago on used car wheels. Don't know what one would cost today. I never see any like it.

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RustyFarmall

04-10-2005 07:07:05

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-10-2005 06:53:36

Cowman, there is so much competition in that type of trailer that you can still buy a brand new one for about the same money that you paid for yours.

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Fawteen

04-10-2005 04:09:32

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Jdman60, 04-10-2005 04:04:04

If you're hauling something as heavy as that 60 around a lot, gooseneck is the ONLY way to go.

As to ball or fifth-wheel, I can't say.

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Dan67

04-10-2005 09:55:16

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Fawteen, 04-10-2005 04:09:32

with todays style of goose-neck hitches advalable. The goose neck is a good way to go, You can get a removeable type ball or a fold down ball (Rated 25000). Have the fold down and love it. I lose no bed space. My cents worth

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edchainsaw

04-10-2005 14:48:42

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Re: What style traler to get? in reply to Dan67, 04-10-2005 09:55:16

We have used all of types of trailers.. bumper, goose, and 5th wheel..

the 60 is not to big for a bumper hitch (thats built right) but the gooseneck is what you want.

the ball can be removed anymore when not in use and you dont have the clumbsy apparatus in the bed of your truck when you dont need it. and I have yet to know why a 5th wheel can get by with no chains and the gooseneck has to... they both can brake--have seen it happen to the 5th wheel..
and the safety chain is not hard to handle at all.

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