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Using Propane for Cutting Torch

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37 chief

03-30-2005 01:04:56




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I have never used propane for my cutting torch. Is there anything I need to do to my regulators? before I can use propane. Stan in calif




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Leland

03-30-2005 18:00:58




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to 37 chief, 03-30-2005 01:04:56  
I bought a nice propane torch set from sears works good and I save a lot of money on gas using cheap propane and it's easier to find on sunday.



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Rod F.

03-30-2005 09:02:21




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to 37 chief, 03-30-2005 01:04:56  
I've been using propane for a couple of years now. All I did was buy a propane tip for the torch I had, and hook my reg up to the tank. Everything else was the same. I run the gas pressure around 6, slightly higher than acetyline, and the oxygen is probably a little higher as well. It makes nice clean cuts. The only drawback I find is that it is difficult to do fine work with propane because of the slow heat. I still use ace to nip bearing races from shafts and those sorts of jobs. I find LPG, because of the slow heat, will tend to heat the shaft too much, and that ends up getting marked. With ace, I can get away without a mark. overall, LPG is cheper, even though I use more oxy. Go for it.

Rod

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Mike-UT

03-30-2005 06:54:02




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to 37 chief, 03-30-2005 01:04:56  
You can get propane with a "hot mix" in it that will cut lots faster than propane. It costs a little more, but lots cheaper than acetylyne. I used to use a product called "Chemolene". Ask your local welding/gas shop. It and propane will outlast acetylene by at least 5 to 1. A real benefit of propane and/or Chemolene is that since there's no carbon in it, it won't leave any slag to grind off! What little it does leave you can chip it off with ease. It's a real benefit on a burn table too since it doesn't leave slag. One drawback is that you can't gas weld with it as there's no carbon in it to make it stick! You also don't have to worry about the tank being upright like acetylene. You can crank the oxygen up as high as you want. It works great with a "Rosebud" and A "Gouger" too. With a size "0" tip you can easily cut 6 inches of steel.

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txblu

03-30-2005 04:56:26




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to 37 chief, 03-30-2005 01:04:56  
When I first came to the country the nearest town of 300 had a jack of all trades guy. I was in his shop one day and he was cutting a 55 gallon drum in half to make a couple of watering troughs.

Since I had a gas rig and dabbled in welding and all, I naturally looked over his setup. Was I surprised. Instead of the black thin Acetylene cylinder, I saw instead a white, short fat LPG cylinder.

Obviously a dialogue erupted.

In short I essentially did nothing really. I still used my existing equipment but for most of my cutting (up to 1/2" as big as I need) 3 to 5 psig of Propane and 30 psig of ox does a really nice job. The high volume of ox is to blow the crud away from your work. You could work with 20 if you wanted on thin stuff.

It's been so long but I think I ran my Acetylene at around 10 psig.
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Starting the torch is a bit harder as is getting the initial melt. I use a zapper (like starts an LP stove) as the flint type doesn't start well. Course an open flame like a cig lighter would work, but I quit smoking and don't have one. Zappers are at welding equip shops.

I adjust the torch for about 1/4" of fingers and the ox volume knob, on the torch, so that when I hit it the fingers do not change length..... works best for me. This could be a more or less thing depending on how thick the material is. Longer fingers put more heat on the work but too long and you can't control the ox.

I have 2 tips; one for everything I do but I bought one with big holes if I ever want to cut 1" stuff; but I can cut a 1" rusted bolt off old iron with the smaller tip; which is slightly bigger (holes) than the one I used for Acetylene.

To start the cut, you have to get the tips of the fingers right at the surface of the steel. I rock the flame slightly up and down right at the point where the flame inverts (on the steel)and out from that point slightly. Idea is to put the very tip of the finger at the metal.

When it looks like I am getting little wet spots at the contact point I goose ox on and off till it breaks. Soon as it does it's full blast with the ox.

Once cutting has started, no difference to me from Acetylene. If you loose bead, just move over to a hot spot and go back to cutting.

The good part is, I don't have to go 25 miles to town to get Ace as I seemed to run out at the worst times, and I have one 7 # cannister of Propane that I have had for years. I have 2 ox cylinders, next to the large size which I don't remember the cylinder number. When I get one empty, I throw it in the truck on my next trip to town and get if refilled. Ox is cheap compared to Ace as is Propane.

Good luck.

Mark

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tompepper

03-30-2005 04:56:26




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to 37 chief, 03-30-2005 01:04:56  
your regs work fine with propane.like they said switch to a propane head.if your torch is a harrison you will have to change the head and mixer.i have been using propane to cut scrap for 0ver 30 years and like it.but you are wasting oxy.i run mine about 40#+-.



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Ibby

03-30-2005 03:05:11




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to 37 chief, 03-30-2005 01:04:56  
Nah - your regulator is the same- it'll screw right into the propane tank. Just get a propane tip for your torch and go at it. I run about 15 lbs propane pressure and 75 oxygen. Works just as good as acetyleene, but it takes an extra second or two to get your cut started. Small price to pay for cutting your lease costs in half and gas cost by 75%

Your brazing tips will work with propane, but go up a size to get the same heat. Flame adjustment is a bit more finiky, but you'll get the hang of it quickly.

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txblu

03-30-2005 05:01:02




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to Ibby, 03-30-2005 03:05:11  
You must be working in a railroad or ship yard. Geez you could probably cut 4" steel with that setup.

Mark



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Dieselrider

03-30-2005 04:45:42




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to Ibby, 03-30-2005 03:05:11  
You run 75# pressure on your oxygen? That's more than double what I run with acetylene. Is that what's required for propane? Thanks.



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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 04:54:25




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to Dieselrider, 03-30-2005 04:45:42  
Diesel,

Propane does use a lot of oxygen. But, he's also got his propane set twice as high as I do.

That's why I said that I think the manifolds are completely different. May hook up, but I think the metering of the gizmo is totally different.

Just my opinion,

Allan



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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 02:22:44




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to 37 chief, 03-30-2005 01:04:56  
Hi Stan,

The whole, complete set-up is different, isn't it? Totally different manifold and different tips?

Dunno,

Allan



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Ken Macfarlane

03-30-2005 05:48:03




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 02:22:44  
I too run propane on my torch. I had to get the better multi-fuel hoses as the cheap ones rot when used with natural gas or propane.

The 2 piece propane tips are a bit harder to clean and the cut start is slower.

I love not having actelyene around to worry about or pay rent on and I like having a spare bbq tank in case the grill runs out!

The 25 lb bbq tank has been through 5 or 6 oxygen cylinders so far and still reads nearly full.

I have an adapter to use disposible cylinders too but they won't work in the winter. Freeze up too fast. In the summer they get a 1/4" of frost all over them!

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Tim, Ohio

03-30-2005 08:48:23




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 03-30-2005 05:48:03  
Your post:

"I have an adapter to use disposible cylinders too but they won't work in the winter. Freeze up too fast. In the summer they get a 1/4" of frost all over them! "

This problem can be solved by setting the tank
in a water bath. A plastic tub slightly larger than the tank works well.

Tim, Ohio



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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 06:09:34




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 03-30-2005 05:48:03  
Ken,

Yep, and after you once use propane, that old actelyene seems pretty darned doggy, doesn't it?

Faster heat and more of it, far better cut and no more of that dirty soot. Like the one fella said tho, a wee bit touchy on the controls; but ya get used to it.

Do you have that big heat tip? Boy, that thing will throw some fire!

Allan



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Ken Macfarlane

03-31-2005 09:57:26




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 Re: Using Propane for Cutting Torch in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 06:09:34  
Nah, I don't have rosebud. I always just crank up the cutting torch for that stuff.

To the other fellow regarding the water suggestion. It's winter that is the most problem... ie below freezing. I just got a bbq tank and solved it.



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