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Allan in NE

03-12-2005 16:34:51




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Hi Guys,

The wife and I went "Farm Shopping" again today; I couldn't help taking a couple of shots of this old 60 and a mounted 4 row cutter, which was on the place we were looking at.

Allan

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RayP(MI)

03-13-2005 13:47:05




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 16:34:51  
That outfit is known as a "bean puller" in this neck of the woods. Used to "PULL" dry beans from the ground - combines two rows together on each side of tractor, then a rear mounted windrower, commonly INNES brand combines 4 rows into one windrow for combining. Properly adjusted, they actually don't cut the plants off, but pull the stems and roots out of the ground.



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RayP(MI)

03-13-2005 14:04:23




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to RayP(MI), 03-13-2005 13:47:05  
Single front wheel was narrower, and thus easied to get down between rows. That meant less damage (shelling) of the crop when pulling the beans. Also was less likely to build up mud between NFW wheels in some soils. We didn't have a problem with that here in central Michigan, (Montcalm county), but my father-in-law had quite a bit of trouble in Eaton county - more clay soils there. Opener in front of front wheel was optional. Was like a gravel shovel mounted backside first to separate vines between rows. Most were discarded after first season as they were a pain and didn't work that well. Father-in-law preferred Farmall tractors, C, Super C, and 200's because of front mounted and individually controled lifts on each side of the tractor. He had been known to fabricate his own single front wheel assembly for these tractors just to get away from mudding up problem.

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Allan in NE

03-13-2005 14:01:30




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to RayP(MI), 03-13-2005 13:47:05  
Hi Ray,

Must be that "regional" thing going on again.

We always run 'em buy the blacksmith for a good sharpening prior to harvest and they would snap that stem like a twig. I also ran a rod weeder right behind the cutter to get the straglers.

Don't ever remember seeing a "root" coming thru the combine. The darned things are dirty enough the way it is without that extra dirt to deal with.

Allan

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John e.c.MI

03-13-2005 05:36:12




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 Does it ever rain out there? in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 16:34:51  
When was that picture taken? I see the snouts on the corn head in the back ground are still shinny. In our part of the world, the corn head will get rusty driving home from the field to the shed at the end of the day.



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Allan in NE

03-13-2005 05:52:30




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 Re: Does it ever rain out there? in reply to John e.c.MI, 03-13-2005 05:36:12  
Hi John,

Picture was taken yesterday afternoon.

I can remember it rained in 1999. But that was early in the year, around May, as I recall. :>)

That is why we have to make our own rain. How would ya like to add the cost of one of these little trinkets to the yearly cash flow? :>(

Allan

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jhill

03-13-2005 10:06:44




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 Re: Does it ever rain out there? in reply to Allan in NE, 03-13-2005 05:52:30  
Got a bout a dozen of those things just north of me. Tater farmers just love them. Friend of mine was driving down the road one day and got drenched. Wasn't paying attention. Had the window down and traveler was shooting over the road.



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Mike M

03-13-2005 04:11:27




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 16:34:51  
Make sure they throw in those tractors !! They appear to still have the original paint on them and not beat all to heck. You just don't see tractors that nice around here,Ohio.



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Mark - IN.

03-12-2005 21:24:04




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 16:34:51  
Hey ya Allan, best of luck on the property. Hope it works out in the direction you want to go, and when you get there you're satisfied.

I'm no expert on Green - actually, I'm no expert on anything, but unless my eyes decieve me, aint there a second one of them things lurking to the left? The one and only time I ever got to see Classic Tractors on RFD, I do believe a guy had one of them that he restored and fetched pretty good buck. I'm thinkin that single wheel on that thing makes it kind of rare, and you might just become the proud papa of two. Of course, you park them things in the same barn with that red, there's likely to be some kind of ruckus coming out of the barn at night when you're trying to sleep. Know how it is when you got one dog and want to get that second? Sometimes have to introduce them to each other to see if the tails wag or if the hairs stand up?

As for classic tractors, I give up on that. I got myself primed to watch it for a second time ever, and company came over for dinner just before it came on. I give up on that.

Mark

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Allan in NE

03-13-2005 06:00:21




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Mark - IN., 03-12-2005 21:24:04  
Mornin' Mark,

Yes, I didn't even think to get a shot of that old 50 settin' there; I was all wound up in that silly old bean cutter.

Guy told my that he had a 70 too, but that it needed a crankshaft. Groan!

Allan



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Sloroll

03-12-2005 18:37:07




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 16:34:51  
Never seen anything like that around here. Odd stuff. Like the single wheel..... Sooo THe big question. We get to call you farmer Al?



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Sloroll

03-12-2005 18:41:57




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 Or in reply to Sloroll, 03-12-2005 18:37:07  
in easier terms... Is that your Farm Al?



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Allan in NE

03-12-2005 19:23:50




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 Re: Or in reply to Sloroll, 03-12-2005 18:41:57  
Hi Bill,

We had a grand day today. Just absolutely fell in love with the owners of the farm. Come to find out, is only 8 or so miles down the road from the farm where I was hatched and I kinda knew the area anyway.

So, the wife (being the learned one from St. Louis) is yanking her checkbook out and wants this place and wants it right now. She is having visions of calling the cattle buyer and ordering a pot of calves. I finally and somewhat diplomatically got her into the car and out of the yard without writing a down payment.

She is looking at me like she would like to rip my arms off and stuff 'em down my throat and I tell her, "Please listen to me on this one, Sweet pea; you know the family business, but I know dirt and this just isn’t all it seems".

The farm is an irrigator's worst nightmare; However, I can handle that trip tho, 'cause I'm used to it. I can live with the tough irrigating as it has more than enough acres under water rights and another fair chunk of dry land.

The killer is that the place has roughly 80 or 90 acres of pure alkaline wasteland on one quarter, which the owner is calling prime; trouble is, it won’t grow a bloody thing.

Yes, I’d like to have the place, but we are going to have to make some major changes in the bottom line of the paperwork before I’ll agree. I gotta talk to the real estate agent on Monday, I guess.

Told ya I was kinda “picky”. :>)

Allan

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Davis In SC

03-12-2005 20:17:38




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 Re: Or in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 19:23:50  
Allan, Haul some of that Alkaline soil down here to the South, & we will fill your truck up with some Acidic red clay..... After a few million loads, the PH should be just right, both here & there..... ..



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Sloroll

03-12-2005 19:37:51




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 Re: Or in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 19:23:50  
Good whoe Boy on that one it sounds. The guy knows what his dirt will do. He'll come around or... I know where there is some real dirt fer yuh. :? )



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Allan in NE

03-12-2005 20:03:39




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 Re: Or in reply to Sloroll, 03-12-2005 19:37:51  
LOL!

Thanks, but we don't have the kind of cash it would take to play in that league of sand box.

'Sides, I wouldn't know the first thing about how to farm anything that wasn't posing as a desert trial run. :>(

I don't see how you guys can survive without rattlesnakes and wildcats. Just don't seem human, somehow. :>)

Allan



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jhill

03-12-2005 18:15:08




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 16:34:51  
Actually thats a 2 row bean puller Allen. For pulling dry beans out of the ground prior to threshing.



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Allan in NE

03-12-2005 18:25:44




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to jhill, 03-12-2005 18:15:08  
Jhill,

Yeah I know, ol' friend.

Been around 'em for 60 years. Count the knives; two on each side of the tractor. Makes four according to my count. :>)

Allan



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jhill

03-12-2005 18:30:33




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 18:25:44  
If you uthe farm I think you should buy the tractor and grow some dry beans. Navys were $28.00 per hundred this year due to the wet spring in Western Minnesota. I got an Innes windrower that would go great on that tractor.



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Paul in Mich

03-12-2005 19:03:08




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to jhill, 03-12-2005 18:30:33  
Jhill, That may be $28.00 per bu. before dockage. Dry beans are very suceptable to splitting, molds, rust, and army worms. By the time the elevator charges for drying plus dockage, there isn"t much money left. Mid-michigan used to be the navy bean capital of the universe, but production has dwindled steadly over the last 10 to 15 years to the point that a lot of farmers have quit raising navy beans as well as other edibles such as black, great northerns, and kidneys. The net money just isnt there. I was talking to a friend of mine who always grew edibles, and he has backed down to i/10th the acres while at the same time has increased his total acerage of farming by 200% in the last 5 yrs. I asked why he even bothered with edibles, if that was the case, and the only reason he could give is that it was something he had always done, and he had the equipment, and didnt want it to sit unused, and it wasnt worth that much to sell.

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jhill

03-12-2005 18:25:37




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to jhill, 03-12-2005 18:15:08  
Whoops now that I think about it it's a 4 row unit.



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Allan in NE

03-12-2005 18:31:46




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to jhill, 03-12-2005 18:25:37  
J,

I never did use a 4 row; always hung another knife to the out side and pushed that outer row to the outside of the rear wheel. So, this would be cutting 6 at a pop.

On the next pass coming back the outer would push the next row over to the one previously cut, thereby still throwing two rows together.

'Course it all depended on how many rows were planted, 'cause the cutter has to match the planter.

Allan

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KENT

03-12-2005 17:54:18




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 16:34:51  
HATE TO SHOW MY IGNORANCE, BUT WHAT DOES THIS CUT???---WE DON"T HAVE EM" IN EAST TEXAS



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Paul in Mich

03-12-2005 18:47:50




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to KENT, 03-12-2005 17:54:18  
Kent, That is a bean puller used to pull edible beans. The one pictured will pull 4 rows at a time, and then windrowed into one row for the combine to pick up and thresh. While I have never been quite the John Deere man as I am a Farmall man, the one thing that was great about those 2 cylinder JD"s and bean pullers was that you could pull in 5th gear which did a bang up job. We tried both a Farmall M and later on a C, but neither would touch the John Deere, because neither the M or the C would pull in High gear. That 5th gear on the John Deere"s was perfect.

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Allan in NE

03-12-2005 18:18:17




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to KENT, 03-12-2005 17:54:18  
Kent,

Sorry, ol' Bud, I always think everyone on here is an irrigator.

This was the cutter used back in the 40s thru the 60s for Dry Edible Beans (Navy Beans).

They were usually planted in 18/22 inch rows back then, the wide spacing for the wheel tracks and the narrow two rows pushed together into one under the tractor belly during the cutting process.

The knives run just under the surface of the soil snapping the root of the plant and those divider rods leading back pushed the two rows together. The front wheel vine divider snout is missing from this tractor.

Everything nowadays is planted in 30" rows, of course.

Allan

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Farmered

03-13-2005 04:40:51




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 18:18:17  
Allen, You forgot to tell them the best part of pullin' beans like gettin' up before breakfast. You have to start before daylight to get the job done while the pods are too tough to shatter. By the time you smell those panny cakes you are done for the day.
Whether you cut them with a knife or lift them with a rod weeder it is still called pullin' beans. Up here on the high plains they are mostly Pinto's, done in 30 inch rows and the price is too low 3 out of 4 years. Ed

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Dug

03-12-2005 17:22:46




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 16:34:51  
Com'on, Allan, admit it. That Johnny is your next project! You finally turned GREEN!

Dug



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Allan in NE

03-12-2005 17:31:23




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Dug, 03-12-2005 17:22:46  
Hi Dugger,

I've always liked green; you've been hangin' around that darned Indy too long. Can't always believe everything he says 'cause he's a color-war monger and just likes to start a scrap. :>)

Right John? :>)

Allan



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Indydirtfarmer

03-13-2005 04:54:30




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 17:31:23  
Allan,

NO! I'm just right all the time....

GREEN and YELLOW is the BEST!

Yours truely,
John



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Harley

03-12-2005 17:41:42




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 17:31:23  
On top of that old buddy, you can't count real well. Looks to me like that is only a two row. :-) Harley



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Paul in Mich

03-12-2005 18:51:57




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Harley, 03-12-2005 17:41:42  
Harley, Actually that is indeed a 4 row bean puller. Each knife catches one row and pulls the plants and they slide to the center gap between the knives. Either a windrower or a rake would then take the 2 pulled rows which was 4 planted rows and combine into onerow for the combine to pick up and thresh.



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Allan in NE

03-12-2005 17:48:34




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Harley, 03-12-2005 17:41:42  
Okay Now,

If and when I ever get ya down outta those hills of MO, I see I'm going to have to put in a little extra time on your "old iron education". :>)

Four knives, 4 rows.

(Don't look now, Harley, but your wife's fetish with the four legged monsters (enter H-word here) is rubbin' off on ya a little) LOL!

Allan



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Harley

03-12-2005 20:57:19




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 17:48:34  
Yep you're absolutely right. The only bean puller I ever been around is standing behind me and laughing herself silly with all of our shenanigans. Thought those shovels were wore awful narrow for any kind of good cultivating. Later, Harley



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Dug

03-12-2005 18:14:18




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Allan in NE, 03-12-2005 17:48:34  
Hmmm, it might be like counting points on a buck. In some areas of the country folks only count one side!

: )

Dug



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rej

03-12-2005 22:28:31




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Dug, 03-12-2005 18:14:18  
Allen how long you been farming. Thats a 2 row cultivator with a pair of hilling sweeps mounted.



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Paul in Mich

03-13-2005 10:39:35




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to rej, 03-12-2005 22:28:31  
rej, My most humble apologies..... I missed the old tounge in cheek. Thought it was chaw.



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Paul in Mich

03-13-2005 09:50:57




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to rej, 03-12-2005 22:28:31  
rej, Nice try, but fraid not. I"ve spent way too much on a 4 row bean puller not to recognize one. Length of time farming would be irrelevent in this case. Now I"m not saying you never used a bean puller for hilling sweeps, but I bet it didnt work.



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Allan in NE

03-13-2005 10:24:04




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 Re: For You John Deere Fans in reply to Paul in Mich, 03-13-2005 09:50:57  
Paul,

Pretty sure he is just joking around with us. :>)

Allan



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