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O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska

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Rockin' Farmer

01-26-2005 19:41:17




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Hi All,

I''m on a crusade and need your help. In the next couple of days, the Nebraska legislature is going to debate LB 126 which is a measure to shut down all of the "one room" country schools in the state, and force all rural students into large K-12 schools. The backers of this bill only want to close the small schools so they can suck more tax money from the rural areas to finance their bloated admistrative costs, while spending less money on acutally educating our kids. The large district that would absorb my 4th graders school spends close to $1000 more per student a year and their annual test scores are lower. My school taxes will go up about 12% according to what I found out from the county assessor. As for the "less opportunities" argument they use, there IS an opportunity for getting knifed in the hallways, learning to smoke dope, take meth, and get into a gang at the school in town! The kid is taking typing in 4th grade (they call it keyboarding), comes home with math assignments that make me think twice, and the only "gang" is 4-H.

I need everyone, especially those in Nebraska to write or call the state senators, and tell them to vote against LB 126. If you don't know how to get ahold of them email me or go to the legislatures web site:Link

They>Link talk about the demise of the "family farm" all the time, and at the same time try to take away another part of of our farming heritage, the "one room school". Don't you love politicians!

Sorry about the long post, and thanks for your help.

Rockin' Farmer
Terry Hrdlicka
Crete, Nebraska

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Rockin' Farmer

11-03-2006 16:42:12




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Since the original post, the Legislature of Nebraska passed this stupid law. A couple of thousand citizens circulated petitions and collected over 87,000 signatures in less than 70 days, and now the measure to repeal is on the ballot as Referendum 422 in Nebraska. If people in Nebraska vote to repeal on this measure, rural citizens, as well as those in town will keep control of their local schools, and won't have to bow to the whims of bureaucrats. Everyone in Nebraska be sure to vote Repeal on Referendum 422.

Rockin' Farmer

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Rockin' Farmer

11-03-2006 16:36:38




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Since the original post, the Legislature of Nebraska passed this stupid law. A couple of thousand citizens circulated petitions and collected over 87,000 signatures in less than 70 days, and now the measure to repeal is on the ballot as Referendum 422 in Nebraska. If people in Nebraska vote to repeal on this measure, rural citizens, as well as those in town will keep control of their local schools, and won't have to bow to the whims of bureaucrats. Everyone in Nebraska be sure to vote Repeal on Referendum 422.

Rockin' Farmer

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cockshuttguy

01-29-2005 07:00:21




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
I'm a graduate of a one roomer, too.
Gather the kids and the adults who support your schools staying as is and bus them to the legislature. Have the children testify about the individualized education they are now receiving and how the internet has them connected to any world wide source that the larger schools have to offer and how all learners in the one roomer are able to do hands-on things along with cross discipline learning, rather than single discipline learning and how the one roomer is a natural for demonstrative learning rather than just cognitive rote memorization and response to paper tests. Believe me I've been there establishing individualized learning atmostpheres all my 35 years of public school teaching/adm.One room learning is better. Far better. Lastly, children and their teacher(s) helping each other as you can in a one roomer is far superior to any other learning atmosphere.
God Bless, and I hope you prevail

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David B

01-27-2005 17:02:50




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Mom went to a small school in her early years in Kansas. It might have been one room, I think two, but not sure. I go to a small school by today's standards, 23 in my class. Here in Missouri, it's getting harder for small schools like mine to last. My Dad and his dad both graduated from here, as I will in May. I'm afraid my school won't last long enough for my future children to graduate from there too.
Keep fighting, small schools usually produce better students, and is a better environment.
Good Luck!

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DaveInMI

01-27-2005 15:02:42




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
If NE has "Charter Schools" you can operate your own one-room school with state funds.



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Chuck MI

01-27-2005 16:47:04




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to DaveInMI, 01-27-2005 15:02:42  
I don't like charter schools here, because they take money out of the general state school fund, and therefore your local schools. But if the state is basically eliminating local schools, get together with your neighbors, create a charter school if available, hire your local teacher and buy the local one room school house. Bottom line, if you don't like the way the state is running your schools (or closing them), then get involved.

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Galen

01-27-2005 13:25:01




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Terry -
I posted earlier when this was on the "N" board, but the post got killed! I live in SE Nebraska, and went to two different one-room schools (we moved 4 miles and it put us in a different district). I know from experience that these schools are way ahead of the "town" schools - we were taking algebra, geometry, phonics, english and others way ahead of our "grade level" (when you are a 1st grader and can listen in on the 8th graders as they have thier class, something is bound to soak in). When I was moved to town school, (6th grade) the others in my class were still trying to figure out 4+2 is not 8. I went from A+ grades to C's, all because I was no longer challenged and became bored (did recover nicely though!). My wife and I don't have children (and cannot afford to adopt), so my tax dollars are wasted in a school that I don't use, have a connection to, nor need. If we were to be blessed with a child, we would home school. We do not need LARGER schools, that are loaded down with nonsense courses, but smaller schools that TEACH. While the problems with drugs, alcohol, s-x, and crime are more out in the open in a big school than in a smaller one - the small districts still have a (growing) problem with them - most parents are not even aware what is going on. I did contact my Senator, but it probably will not do much good - usually they go where the money is.

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JDknut

01-27-2005 09:10:35




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
I didn't know they still had one room country school houses. I went to one as a kid, 15 kids one teacher, Kindergarten thru Sixth, walked to school, all that. We went through all that closing thing in 1966 like you are talking about now. My dad led a big crusade to keep it open, but it didn't work. The school district didnt like the decentrealized schools as it limited their personal empire, all our taxes went up and you know the rest. We couldnt fight "City HalL", hope you have better luck. Dave Sanford

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Delbert

01-27-2005 07:43:14




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Might think about home schooling if one or both of you can do it. I live in Kansas and we have about the same problem and the ones that home school their kids do far better on those test than the town taught kids. Just something to think about.



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Interesting Statistic

01-27-2005 12:08:51




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Delbert, 01-27-2005 07:43:14  
That is an interesting statistic what with the home taught vs regular populations and exam results. Same thing showed up in our area of the country too, however somebody did a bit of spade work and checked things out a little more carefully. Apparently, the % of home taught kids that wrote the standardized tests up here (writing is not compulsory) was FAR lower than the % writing the test from the regular population. In other words, home taught showed well because the relatively few writing the exam were prepared and probably pretty smart/sharp kids whereas pretty much everyone in the regular school population wrote the tests which would drag down results. Statistics often show up what you want to show up and hide something that tells a more accurate story. Interesting in either case though.

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jimont

01-27-2005 06:26:36




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Good luck in your endevour !!! The school system and the entire rural community started to decline here in Ontario when those one room schools were closed! My mother taught her entire life in two of those schools , the last one, for over 25yrs. From that last "antiquated" school came the vice-chair of design for Harley-Davidson (after a career with G.M., turning down the Corvette Div), a millionaire truck dealer, a vice president of Bell, owner of a Bagel chain and the list goes on !!! A very poor system wouldn't you say!!!

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Dick A

01-27-2005 06:12:56




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
My mother taught in "one room schools" and was really pleased when two of her sudents went on to HS and became the Valedictorian and Salutatarian of the same class.



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Mike M

01-27-2005 06:00:20




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Good Luck ! I hope you can win back your schools. If so there may be hope left for the rest of the country who's school system is a disaster.



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Alberta Mike

01-27-2005 05:59:22




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Good luck with your crusade, it might not work but at least you've made a stand. Like offshore manufacturing (discussed a few days ago), the mighty buck raises its ugly head again. It's likely cheaper to consolidate schools into bigger ones but if they're saving money, why do the taxes rise when it happens? Just doesn't make sense.



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Glen1

01-27-2005 05:49:08




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Good luck



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Glen25

01-27-2005 05:46:48




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
We have already lost most of our rual schools in OK.They will tell you that they only have the kids interest in mind, but all they want is the money. They took over our 1 thru 8 grade schools, shut most of them down left these to set and rot away. The schools that they continue to run has 4 times as many teachers as we had and as you say the test scores are lower. I wish you luck but think you are fighting a loseing battle.

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sawtooth

01-27-2005 05:14:47




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Are there any amish in Nebraska? Around here they are the only ones with one room country schools. How do they remain exempt? Maybe others can do the same- after all, homeschooling is legal. BTW, I was in a 2 room country school in the early 50's for 2 years til it closed. Much better (personalized and fun) than the big city school.



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jughead

01-27-2005 03:42:04




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Kudos for you-but unfortunately when elected officials want to do something they forget about who elected them and steam ahead-easier to skim funds off of a larger operation and go unnoticed



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Allan in NE

01-27-2005 02:19:46




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
Terry,

This fight has been going on for as long as I can remember (at least since 1954) and every few years, it raises it's ugly head.

Good thing we have folks like you watching the gates.

Allan



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Midwest redneck

01-27-2005 02:08:10




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
I would think that if all the parents think the way you do in the one room school house then all the parents should be able to make a voice and tell the legislature to shove it. I remember hearing on the radio that in Tennessee a few years ago the state wanted to raise taxes and a bunch of people showed up at the state congress and threw bottles and yelled their heads off shouting "no new taxes" the lawmakers didnt raise taxes that day, its funny that when the government clowns are threatened by loss of their jobs or a pop bottle they listen to the voters.

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Todd L

01-26-2005 19:53:55




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-26-2005 19:41:17  
I'm out in western NE. and we are fighting this tooth and nail. Somehow I feel it is a losing battle because the bill will keep coming up till it passes. I have a 1st grader and a 4th grader and would like to keep them in country school. The schools in town have low enrollment numbers so they are all for it. They laugh when they are asked if buses will be coming to pick up our kids if this bill does pass.

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Rockin' Farmer

01-26-2005 20:28:19




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 Re: O.T. Help Save Country Schools in Nebraska in reply to Todd L, 01-26-2005 19:53:55  
Todd,

Keep fighting baby! Tell the folks in town to fight it too! If their enrollment is low, they'll be the next to get "consolidated."

Rockin' Farmer



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