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don't know my own strength!

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Lynn Kasdorf

11-14-2004 17:11:55




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I removed the drawbar bracket last night on my 1940 JD B. The 1/2" air impact driver wouldn't budge a three of the 5/8" dia. bolts (this should have been a tip off to me).

So I got out the snap-on 1/2" breaker/ratchet and hauled on them. I got two of the three off. Bear in mind, I was not using a pipe on the handle- just pulling on the breaker bar with my hands and pressing against the inside of the rear wheel with my feet.

Then the last one broke off! A 5/8" bolt with a 3/4" head! Now, to be sure, I was able to exert my full strength on it, but this must have been a low quality bolt! Maybe they used a low grade of steel back then.

So now, I have a bolt broken off flush with the surface. Since I was unable to budge it when I could get a socket onto it, I seriously doubt that I can get it out with a screw extractor.

My current thinking is to weld on a stud in its place and use a nut to hold on the drawbar. Since the drawbar will always be mounted, this should not be a problem. I suppose I could try drilling it out and re-tapping. What fun... :(

Or, I reckon the drawbar will hold on ok with just 3 bolts...

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Mike M

11-15-2004 07:04:25




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 Re: don't know my own strength! in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-14-2004 17:11:55  
Tight drawbar bolts ? That's a new one on me,around here they allways are loose and have the case wallowed out and I have to drill and tap the hole for an oversized bolt. I would do as said below,try to weld a washer/and or nut to the exposed piece and try to get it out you may have to do this a couple of times to get it hot enough and to get it to stick.



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Missouri Boy

11-15-2004 01:41:21




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 Re: don't know my own strength! in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-14-2004 17:11:55  
Nest time strike the head of the bolt with a heavy hammer before you begin to exert heavy pressure on the wrench. Just act like you are trying to drive it in.



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Leland

11-14-2004 19:33:56




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 Re: don't know my own strength! in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-14-2004 17:11:55  
Or you could try heating up to break rust loose then use a left handed bit it may spin bolt out.



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MarkB_MI

11-14-2004 18:53:58




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 Re: don't know my own strength! in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-14-2004 17:11:55  
Lynn,

On old iron, if a bolt or nut is the least bit stubborn, I break out the torch. Many times I've broken the first bolt, then applied a little heat to the remaining bolts and had them come right out.

I think the idea of welding a nut to the broken stud will work. Just add more heat if it doesn't come out immediately. Don't be shy with your torch; you'll probably need to get it red before it loosens up.

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JMS/MN

11-14-2004 17:44:42




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 Re: don't know my own strength! in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-14-2004 17:11:55  
I'd go with the welding ideas first, but if you need to drill out the old bolt, and it is underneath the tractor- set your drill on top of a hydraulic jack. Pump slowly- helps if you have a friend help you. Beats trying to drill overhead.



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evielboweviel

11-14-2004 17:20:53




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 Re: don't know my own strength! in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-14-2004 17:11:55  
weld a nut onto it and then after it cools probably will screw out ok. the heat will break the rust and loosen the bolt.
Ron



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Bernie in MA

11-14-2004 17:32:09




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 Re: don't know my own strength! in reply to evielboweviel, 11-14-2004 17:20:53  
I've had better luck welding a flat washer on first, then welding a nut to the washer.JMHO Also put the penetrating oil (Kroil) to it as it cools off.



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