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J Puleo

10-03-2004 18:48:01




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I am moving from CT to NC. (900miles) I may choose to haul my tractor with me. Ill be selling my van anyhow, so I think I may buy a truck and keep it after the move. I have a 8200lb AC Backoe and a 16ft 9ton pintle hitch trailer weighing 5500lbs. with full elec. brakes. Total 13,700lbs. I am new to trucks, have no brand loyalty, and looking at around 5-7k for a truck. Less if possible. Are there any pickups that can do this, mabey 3/4 ton. Duallies ect. Please help by throwing some advice my way if you can.
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Joe

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Ray,IN

10-04-2004 21:34:50




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to J Puleo, 10-03-2004 18:48:01  
Do yourself a favor and visit the DOT website and read the regulation governing CDL licensing. You do NOT need a CDL to drive your own non-commerical truck with a GVW under 26,001 lbs. New 3/4T HD trucks with diesel engines are rated to tow 19,000lbs; older models are less. Where you run out of truck is the actual load carrying capacity of the truck itself. The pintle hitch will quickly overload the rear axle. I would hire the trailer and load towed that many miles, or - buy an older single axle semi-tractor(much cheaper than a pickup ~$5K), weld on a pintle hitch and hit the road.

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Ray,IN

10-04-2004 21:32:21




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to J Puleo, 10-03-2004 18:48:01  
Do yourself a favor and visit the DOT website and read the regulation governing CDL licensing. You do NOT need a CDL to drive your own non-commerical truck with a GVW under 26,001 lbs. New 3/4T HD trucks with diesel engines are rated to tow 19,000lbs; older models are less. Where you run out of truck is the actual load carrying capacity of the truck itself. That pintle hitch will quickly overload the rear axle. I would hire the trailer and load towed that many miles, or - buy an older single axle semi-tractor(much cheaper than a pickup), weld on a pintle hitch and hit the road.

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Phil from Maryland

10-04-2004 17:59:00




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to J Puleo, 10-03-2004 18:48:01  
I have been around a lot of trucks. I have driven Ford, Chevy and Dodge. For me, the decision would come down to getting a vehicle with an engine that is superior in design and has been proven over and over again.

I simply do not think anyone can come close to the level of reliability and brute pulling strentgh of a Dodge Ram pickup with a Cummins diesel. I would recommend looking at Ram's from 1993 - 1998 as they have the legendary 12V cummins motor that simply cannot be beat!! The Ford Powerstroke and Chevy diesels simply are not as good. The straight six design with 1/3 fewer parts and huge rods and bearings are rock solid and there are many of these trucks with over 1,000,000 miles on them. This is not one of those "did ya hear that..." fairy tales. I have actually met a guy and seen his truck. He has a hair over 1,000,000 miles and still going strong.

Many of you have been to tractor pulls and I know that you have seen the trucks pull as well. Notice how 90% of the big bad pullers are cummins powered? There is a reason for that. They are built like a tank. They can take bigger and more turbos... larger boost pressures and higher EGT's better than the other brands because they are made for true medium duty industrial applications.

You can find older ones in the $7k range even possibly with a dually but the truck itself maybe fairly rough. A 3500 1 tom dually for $10K is fairly easy to find. You will want a 4.10 gear ratio in the rear end and preferrably a manual trans. It may have over 100,000 miles but that only means she is just being broken in! A lot of poeple will respond and tell you the enignes are good but the trucks are junk. I can tell you the same is true for all the brands... They all have their faults. I would personnaly rather have a truck that needs other things rather than the engine.

And yes... I am a die hard dodge cummins fan. If you would like to learn more please stop on over to the Turbo Diesel Register website (http://www.turbodieselregister.com). It is a great place to learn more about these trucks.

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Phil

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Phil from Maryland

10-04-2004 18:03:09




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 And yes... It can pull your weight easily in reply to Phil from Maryland, 10-04-2004 17:59:00  
ask over on the turbo diesel register website. Many guys are pulling this kind of weight including me! I pull a 8500 lb 5'ver with little effort. I own a 2002 Dodge Ram Cummins 24V.

Phil



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Ludwig

10-04-2004 12:07:02




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to J Puleo, 10-03-2004 18:48:01  
I'm with the others. I've driven that route a time or three and when you're on the Jersey turnpike you'll be glad for a bigger safer vehicle.
At the very least I'd want a 1ton truck with duallies. I'm thinking they're going to be hard to find in any kind of shape for the money your talking about.



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Davis In SC

10-03-2004 21:28:42




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to J Puleo, 10-03-2004 18:48:01  
Just out of curiousity, what part of NC are you moving to ???



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j puleo

10-03-2004 21:52:23




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to Davis In SC, 10-03-2004 21:28:42  
Cherokee county. I thought about the Ryder truck, but my concern was that I would be way over the CDL limit of 26k. Also, the 2k rental price is a bit bothersome. I have goten a good price from a hauler, but would raher find an excuse for a new toy.



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Rusty Jones, The mower ma

10-04-2004 20:39:01




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to j puleo, 10-03-2004 21:52:23  
From your description of how much weight you have to haul, i think you'd be much better off if you get the hauler to drag that big tractor down to N.C. for you. Then buy a nice newer pickup that won't take you broke buying fuel for it when you get settled in your new home! I've dragged travel trailers all around the eastern U.S. for years, with a 3/4 ton pickup, and some of the mountain roads were scary! Although, the electric brakes on the trailers worked very well, if you kept them adjusted! Then i moved up to a motor home, class C, and believe me, ya'd better have yer brakes up to snuff, or yer in for a bad time, going down the mountains. It had a Dodge 440 engine, and pulled the hills alright! And, i could down-shift the 727 tranny going down hill! Any way, i don't think a 3/4 ton pickup could control all that weight on a down-hill pull! by: Rusty Jones

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Leland

10-04-2004 06:03:09




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to j puleo, 10-03-2004 21:52:23  
As long as truck does not weigh over 13000 after you put some stuff in rear you will be all right they start out about 8500-9500 empty and full of fuel, That way DOT should leave you alone,but a CDL is easy to obtain all you would need is a class B and all problems solved remember be safe. Those mountains are only so forgiving then they will reach out and nail you.



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Davis In SC

10-03-2004 21:54:37




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to j puleo, 10-03-2004 21:52:23  
Welcome South, JP !!! I am near Spartanburg , just one county over.....



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John M

10-04-2004 14:44:13




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to Davis In SC, 10-03-2004 21:54:37  
Uh,Davis,he said NC,Spartanburg County is a little further from Cherokee County NC than Cherokee County SC,aint it?You by chnace go to Squelin on the Square in Laurens?



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Davis In SC

10-04-2004 17:21:32




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to John M, 10-04-2004 14:44:13  
Oops, My mistake..... worked late at shop,was kind of out-of-it.



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John M

10-04-2004 18:56:36




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to Davis In SC, 10-04-2004 17:21:32  
Are you in Foothills APA?



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Leland

10-03-2004 20:45:57




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to J Puleo, 10-03-2004 18:48:01  
You could rent a large ryder box truck that way you pack truck with your stuff and hook trailer on back will be safer than a p-up. You have a lot of big hills to go up and down that may wear out yhat pick up fast thats a lot of weight for a p-up to pull that far and does this trailer have good brakes? I ran east coast for a while and saw guys thinking like you and it turned into a nightmare when they went flying down a mountion bacause they burnt up there brakes. be safe not cheap you will live longer.

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J Puleo

10-04-2004 14:21:34




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to Leland, 10-03-2004 20:45:57  
So, I guess my buddies 3500 gmc Utl. body wont do it? Im guessing 1 ton dualies would be minimum?



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Leland

10-04-2004 14:50:27




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 Re: Need Hauling Vehicle Choice Help in reply to J Puleo, 10-04-2004 14:21:34  
It might but that will be a lot of wear and tear on that truck. It's your choice but you asked,and I gave you the best and most honest anwser I could.



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