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Allan in NE

09-06-2004 09:35:34




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Hey Guys,

Has anyone ever heard of a term called “Crystalized Metal”?

Thanks,

Allan




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buickanddeere

09-07-2004 11:42:19




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
Liquid metal solidified at zero gravity during shuttle experiments. Tends to be without crystals and has a very regular/fine grain structure. Allows alloys not possible on earth as well.



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T_Bone

09-07-2004 15:38:06




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to buickanddeere, 09-07-2004 11:42:19  
Hi buickanddeere,

Any chance you would have a picture or a website with some pics?

I would love to see them.

T_Bone



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Carm

09-07-2004 05:07:01




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
Check out www.liquidmetal.com THey have found a way to make metal without a crystalline structure. They call it a glassy metal. I thought this was sort of on the subject.It talks a little bit about metal structure.



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RAB

09-06-2004 23:17:17




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
C"mon guys. It is a matallurgical term referring to the changes occurring in solid solutions of metals in various alloy forms. It is a bit like glass, which is an uncrystallised solid (super-cooled liquid?), getting more brittle as it ages and some of the molecules crystallise, allowing crack propagation more easily. If you don"t believe me, try cutting new glass and old glass - there is a large difference!
It has nothing to do with sodium chloride, which is a compound.
It can come about with heat, fatigue or chemical effects, so yes ageing is often given as a cause.
Regards, RAB

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Old Pokey

09-06-2004 21:28:55




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
Metal that is subjected to too many cycles or harmonics will "crystalize" and become brittle. If you are somewhat familure with engines, think about why there is a "harmonic balancer" on the front of the crankshaft. It is to protect the crank from harmful harmonics that can cause it to fail. Crystalized metal is just a slang term used to describe metal that appears to be brittle when it breaks.

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Alvin NE WI

09-06-2004 18:04:41




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
Yep, heard that term used many times. When ev er something broke with the boss or his family using something it was because it crystalized. When ever one of us peons broke something it was because of reckless use. Alvin



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Allan in NE

09-06-2004 18:52:08




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Alvin NE WI, 09-06-2004 18:04:41  
Alvin,

Ya just won the door prize.

I used to work for a drunk up in North Dakota that used to do that. Always talking about how this or that broke on him & it was always because it was crystalized. It was never because of his mistakes.

He couldn't put air in a tire without breaking something. I think the tire stems must have been crystalized too. :>)

Bless his heart, he's gone now; drank himself clear to death; but, whenever I break something these days, I think of that "crystalized metal". :>)

Allan

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T_Bone

09-06-2004 15:32:58




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
Hi Allan,

Atoms of elements that arrange themselves in a orderly geometric pattern upon solidification are said to be crystalline.

Crystals grow in all directions upon solidification until they meet other crystals also growing in the melt. When the crystals meet and produce irregular boundries they are called grains.

That is what we mean when we say were looking at the metal grain structure. We are actually looking at the many crystals that is formed when the metal has cooled.

T_Bone

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steve450

09-06-2004 15:00:47




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
Yep, that's why the Titanic Sunk.



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TheRealRon

09-06-2004 11:10:51




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
It's a nonsense term as it can be used to describe any metal in solid form, many alloys, and even salts... table salt (sodium chloride)is a crystallized metal.

Before someone says it... sodium IS a metallic element.

So context is important when you use the term "crystallized metal".



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Harley1983

09-06-2004 15:11:46




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to TheRealRon, 09-06-2004 11:10:51  
Sodium Chloride----- ----NaC1----- ---an innert mineral found naturally in the earth. Not a metalic substance. Per the American College Dictionary published by Random House first printing in 1947, final printing of this edition in 1953.



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TheRealRon

09-06-2004 16:30:28




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Harley1983, 09-06-2004 15:11:46  
Get a Periodic Table and look it up. Sodium is a metallic element. An alkali metal, in fact.

The dictionary says nothing about sodium not being a metallic element. Nice try!



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Katie

09-06-2004 17:15:06




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to TheRealRon, 09-06-2004 16:30:28  
I betcha you got an "A" in Junior Hi Chemistry!!! Fairly smart boy!!



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Paul in Mich

09-06-2004 19:46:22




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Katie, 09-06-2004 17:15:06  
Katie, It would have had to be in Chemestry, because its obvious that it wasnt in conflict resolution.



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TheRealRon

09-07-2004 03:31:20




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Paul in Mich, 09-06-2004 19:46:22  
Obviously you slept through spelling and grammar!



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Paul in Mich

09-07-2004 07:03:42




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to TheRealRon, 09-07-2004 03:31:20  
Ron, I slept not only in spelling and grammar, but through math, science, history, and study hall, and I"m still smarter than you, but then so is 90% of the rest of the world.



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Allan in NE

09-07-2004 08:15:22




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Paul in Mich, 09-07-2004 07:03:42  
Hey!

Isn't this some kind of weather we're havin' this year? :>)

Allan



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thurlow

09-07-2004 09:55:07




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-07-2004 08:15:22  
Heard the one about Bush's belt size/Kerry's IQ????



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thurlow

09-08-2004 21:32:05




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to DL, 09-08-2004 19:32:16  
Good one, DL.....although after the build-up, the punch line was a bit of a non-sequitur; it went right over my head; thought you were gonna use one of these. (1). So the pianist says to the lady..... Know it? Hail, I wrote it. (2). So little Johnny says to the teacher.....Rectum? Hail, it killed 'em both..... 'Splain it again in dirt-farmer talk???



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paul

09-06-2004 21:10:56




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Paul in Mich, 09-06-2004 19:46:22  
A big 10-4 on that comment, Paul! :) :) :)

I heard the term a lot when the axle broke off the 300 international rowcrop. Heard it again when the other axle broke off some years later. Dad used several other words as well.....

The neighbor had quite the experence when he was driving an International with mounted corn picker down the road in road gear & the axel broke..... .

Anyhow, crystalized metal was when the iron in the axle was real brittle, and broke/ shattered. Would have been in the early 70s when this was being discussed.

--->Paul

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Nebraska Cowman

09-06-2004 10:16:46




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
yup, it gets brittle with age.



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John A.

09-06-2004 10:10:02




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 Re: Unfamiliar Term in reply to Allan in NE, 09-06-2004 09:35:34  
Allen, In my end of the world that term stands for metal that has fatigued, or stressed so that it isn't as strong as it wonce was. Causes... Either by fire or stress and strain.
Hope this helps!
Later,
John A.



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