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Errin OH

04-17-2004 17:49:23




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Went out to get a new play ground for the tractor. Hopen to pick up 25a, 1/2 grass, 1/2 woods. Well want went on there was beyond belief. Auction started normal and was on track to be normal until a late arivel came in. Started running it all up like he had a trunk full of money in his truck. Now I know proptery can be worth more to some than others, but this???

Lot 1 & 3 11a grass, Apraized 44,000 sold in mid 60's
Lot 2, 4, 5 75a 1/2 Gras, 1/2 sm wood/scrub brush, 5 swamp, Apraised mid 90's sold over 200,000
Lot 6 27a, sm wood/scrub brush, mostly dranage for rest, Aprised 30 sold 108,000

All the locals had chins on floor, auctioneer grinin ear to ear. Avg of 3500 an acre (avg Apraised 1450)

Wonder if they ever even looked at it.

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JustRight

04-19-2004 14:29:38




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
Neighbor sold 79 acres of swamp/hunting ground in Mid Michigan for over 250000 georges. Not bad for hunting, huh?????



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John S-B

04-18-2004 20:26:46




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
Where was this land at? Any where near Columbus is gold. Land just across the road is going for 35,000 an acre for 2 acre lots. (Yeah that's THREE ZERO'S!) I could'nt afford my place now if I had to buy it again.



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Tom

04-18-2004 12:19:07




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
I just got back from Eastern Oregon (Bend, Sisters, Redmond area) this morning. There are quite a number of small acreages for sale over there---like 5 to 20 acres. But, the asking price is typically $10,000 to $20,000 per acre. The strange part about it is that it isn't farmland. For the most part, it's just sagebrush, juniper trees, and rock. The whole area is becoming one huge recreational/retirement community being fueled by those baby boomers among us that are just now beginning to retire.

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Bob

04-18-2004 10:56:20




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
Before condemning all sales for a high price, be thankfull that we are free to sell our property for what the market will bring. Some day you may be on the selling end, and benefit from a good sale to retire on or pay medical, or other bills for necessities.

In my family, my parents and an uncle were very healthy up to an advanced age, and did not protect their property by giving it away in time, or having nursing home insurance, and within a couple of years, the family farm had to support monthly nursing home bills for three people for several years. By selling a small portion of the land that had been in our family for over a hundred years at a good price, those needs were meet, and I was able to keep the remainder in the family.

I hope I am able to manage my old age preparations better, and set up a plan to keep the farm together, and in the family for another hundred years, but in the situation I went through, a good sale price was a godsend.

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Shane

04-18-2004 08:04:16




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
$3500 per acre. I am in northern IN and that seems to be what land is selling for around here. Unfortunately I just watches a few parcels of 20 acres sell for $6000 an acre and one up for sale now asking $10,000! Darned developers are the ones responsible... actually I guess it would be the rich city folk who sit on their butts all day and make $200,000 a year who want to live in the country who are responsible for the high land prices.

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Scotty

04-17-2004 22:47:25




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
I hardly go to auctions anymore! They bring unrealistic prices anymore better than 50% of the time, & that is why New equipment dealers are holding large auctions between say 4 - 12 dealerships trying to sell most every used item they have, & then in many cases the euipment sells for more than they had it listed for, or well above book value! With land it could be any number of reasons it brings high prices! Expanding cities, high property taxes, etc. One thing is certain at least in Indiana... Goverment, & Conservationist are taking land in numbers! For those who dont beleive it look at a state map, & see how big Hoosier National Forest is! Also Indianapolis Power, & Light recently had an auction selling around If I remeber correctly about 2k acres! As soon as conservationist found out they started screaming to the Goverment to buy the land to preserve it. With the State in the RED they purchased some of it for the Hoosier National Forest, & now there is lost Propeerty tax to make up EVEN THOUGH PROPERTY TAXES HAVE SKYROCKETED ALREADY ACROSS THE STATE IN THE LAST 2 YEARS! If goverment would get there hands off more land; Then everybody would benefit because the average person could afford to own land much more frequently! There are of course other reasons which would take all night to type!

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Shane

04-18-2004 08:09:34




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 Re: Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Scotty, 04-17-2004 22:47:25  
Indiana, a wonderful state aren't we! Buying land so the stupid tree huggers are happy and then putting in a new 31 bypass that will demolish 30 or so homes and go right through classified wetlands! All to save about 20 mins from South Bend to Indy, unfortunately the new route still goes through Kokomo... the major time killer. Politicians hard at work spending our money again!



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J.C. IN AZ.

04-17-2004 21:35:34




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
PEOPLE: THEY ARE NOT MAKING ANY MORE LAND AND THE DEVELOPERS AND POLITICIANS KNOW THAT.WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IN THE DESERT, LAND OF NO WATER IS TOTALLY ABSURD,BUT AS LONG AS DEVELOPERS HOLD THE PURSE STRINGS AND THE HUMAN BEAST REMAINS GREEDY THE AVERAGE PERSON AND THE ONES LESS THAN AVERAGE WILL REMAIN IN SERVITUDE TO THE MONEY PEOPLE.



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Paul in Mich

04-18-2004 04:30:44




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 Re: Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to J.C. IN AZ., 04-17-2004 21:35:34  
JC, The only difference between what you call "the average person in servitude to the money people" and the Money people is that the Money people somehow saw the desert as something other than a kitty litter box when land there was kitty litter box dirt cheap. A lot of "average people" had land, they just didn't know what to do with it. Don't blame the Money people just because they are visionaries. Blame yourself that you didnt have the foresight to see the potential when you may have been able to buy land at bargain basement prices and sat on it a while. And don't say you dont have the money, because neither do the money people. You can use their money just as easily as they use yours. It just takes vision, imagination, and the will to talk to your neighborhood banker.

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Chris-se-ILL

04-19-2004 06:07:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Paul in Mich, 04-18-2004 04:30:44  
Paul, you are trying to be rational {logical} with a guy that wants to think of himself as an average person... and ANYONE that has foresight and ambition is a no-good money-grubbing son-of-a gun! He is the victim... in his own mind and nothing will open his eyes {or his mind}.



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mj

04-17-2004 20:54:34




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
The same thing is going on all over Western Colorado. 10 acres for 175K, 300 ac. for 3.4 mil. 1 ac. lots: undeveloped, dry as a bone with no trees (picture the moon) or utilities in goes for around 30 grand. Somebody somewhere has GOT to be losing their shirt on all of this but it just keeps rolling!?!?



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jdemaris

04-17-2004 19:53:45




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
That makes New York State look like a bargain. Within the past few years, I bought 50 wooded acres on the Tug Hill Plateau with two ponds and a stream near Lake Ontario for $10,000, 35 acres near Cooperstown of half farmland and half wooded hillside for $12,000, and 8 acres in Indian Lake in the Adirondack Park for $38,000. The $38,000 piece could have been bought for $10,000 about 10 years ago. Now, where I grew up in what was, suburban New Jersey (Cresskill) - my parents bought their house and 50' X 100' building lot for $7000 in 1947. It just sold for $325,000 and the house is getting knocked down - so I guess the buying price is just for the lot.

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evielboweviel

04-17-2004 19:45:48




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
Auction Right??
takes two to bid anything up

watched old coal mine southeast Ohio sell off 500 an acre in 97 broke up in plots from 2 aceres to 250 acres, some turned right around and sold for 1000 now up around 1500 when it comes on market.
old man who had property next to me in SE Ohio 140 acres? estate sold for 220,000. was timebered and resold for 265,000 before timber was even cut off of it.
Land is worth what people are willing to pay
Ron

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buickanddeere

04-17-2004 19:34:13




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
Still cheap compared to Europe but we will get there soon enough.



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rhudson

04-17-2004 19:09:52




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
long story to short. i have theree outof state neighbors that paid $10,000 for slightly less that 1 ac. each for land that two years before went for $800/ac. we've lost our jobs in the south, now we will loose our land.



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Ray

04-17-2004 19:17:11




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 Re: Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to rhudson, 04-17-2004 19:09:52  
$10000 is cheap for an acre building lot,most
I've seen go for $20000 or more here in ohio.
Some in town lots of about 1/4 acre go for $50000.A 150 acre farm sold a couple months
ago for $8000 per acre,not very good ground
either.



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RusselAZ

04-17-2004 17:59:11




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 Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Errin OH, 04-17-2004 17:49:23  
Just a thought but I'll bet if you follow the money on this you will find some animal protection group or serria club type behind it. Money is no object to them. It is really sickening to see them seal off land so people who would really care about it can't afford it.



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Paul in Mich

04-18-2004 05:11:28




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 Re: Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to RusselAZ, 04-17-2004 17:59:11  
Russel, My response to Scotty pretty much mirrors what you are saying here. You have it nailed in my opinion.



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Ol Chief

04-17-2004 19:25:27




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 Re: Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to RusselAZ, 04-17-2004 17:59:11  
This morning enroute from Fredericksburg,Texas to San Antonio,I passed a sign advertizing land . Developement Phase One. Sold Out. Phase Two,homesites available,$ 125,000 and up. This appeared to be mountain side property.No wonder doctors and lawyers are expensive.



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Zak

04-17-2004 19:51:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Ol Chief , 04-17-2004 19:25:27  
Hell, I gotcha all beat. A condminium sold in Ocean City, NJ this past month for 1.5 million. Oh yeah, that was just the top floor!!!! The other two were slightly less than that. Seems silly to pay that much and still have someone under ya but whatever I guess. I won't live there.



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Paul in Mich

04-18-2004 05:08:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Complete Utter Nonsence... in reply to Zak, 04-17-2004 19:51:49  
Zak, And to think I used to work 2 jobs in order to save up enough money to move out of a basement apartment. I guess thats the difference between the laundry room and the penthouse.



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