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matthewh

12-24-2003 19:50:50




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Was going shopping today for my wife and almost made it to town when I spotted a utility trailer for sale. Although I can't say my wife really needed a trailer, I thought a nice little easy to pull 5 x 8 trailer would be handy to have around. As it worked out, the trailer was a heavy built 6 x 10, but the price was ok so I bought it.

Problem is when pulling it home I surely knew it was back there as it bounced fairly good. The trailer has brand new tires but there are no balancing weights. The wheel/rims are "mobile home" type. I have not used these before. When you mount the rim to the wheel/hub, is there a trick to insuring the rim stays centered and could this be the problem? And, can a normal tire shop balance these or will I need to find someone who services heaver trucks?

Need help as I am pretty sure I am going to have a difficulty enough time convincing my wife that this is what she really wanted.

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Jack in Fla

12-25-2003 09:04:54




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 Re: christmas trailer in reply to matthewh, 12-24-2003 19:50:50  
Matthewh, When you jack up the axel,used a round object that would set on ground, as close to the tire as you can get it without hitting the tire. Then rotate said tire and if it wobbles a little go to the lug across from it and tighten a little. Keep doing this untill you get it true.May have to lossen and retighten all lugs, untill you get it right. That wobble, is the cause of most of out of balance shake.Check tires to see what ply they are. requires ten pounds of air per ply. Jack in Fla

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ChuckG

12-25-2003 09:01:16




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 Re: christmas trailer in reply to matthewh, 12-24-2003 19:50:50  
I have 3 trailers with the "Mobile Home" Style wheels. One of them is an old John Deere Industrial Tilt Bed Trailer. The nice thing about this set up is that they are low profile and each tire will support more weight than regular tires their size. Here is what I have found works best to center them side to side when reinstalling them. I leave 2 of the 5 clamps on the wheel and "hang" the wheel on it. Back those 2 bolts off a turn or so. Put the other 3 on and screw in to hold the wheel in place. Just snug the bolts. Now spin the tire and watch the outside edge of the rim (I stick my finger out as a reference as it goes around). Tighten the bolts near the spot that sticks fathest out first and work your way around checking the side to side wobble as you go. If you are not making any progress, find the spot that is farthest in and back off the 2 or 3 bolts at that spot then start over. This type wheel and tire is higher pressure to carry lots of weight and they tend to bounce on trailers that are empty, light or not loaded. Good Luck!

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Sonny Heath

12-25-2003 08:16:11




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 Re: christmas trailer in reply to matthewh, 12-24-2003 19:50:50  
I've had the same trouble you're having for years. I own a tire business and let me tell you. I've had these wheels on new and used trailers and they're all the same problem. Bounce, bounce, bounce, bump, bump, bump, stuff shaking off, etc fyi, I have always been told to NOT balance tires and wheels on utility trailers, they will bounce if you do and they will bounce if you don't so whats the point? Trailers with hubs which have studs and acorn nuts aren't as bad as the one you have but they're bad enough. The best bet to reduce bouncing, as I'm told is to have a trailer with the rubber suspension instead of the leaf springs but they bounce also. As far as the comment about the mobile home set up self centering, its probably meant to be but they did a sorry job in the engineering department. If you find a solution please let us know. If that trailer had been sitting for a while and especially if the tires are belted instead of radial they probably have flat spots where the bottom was on a flat surface. Good luck, Sonny

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Slowpoke

12-25-2003 11:42:28




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 Re: Re: christmas trailer in reply to Sonny Heath, 12-25-2003 08:16:11  
A few months ago, I was driving down a frontage road next to the highway and I came across a business that had stacks of new looking trailer axles on pallets, and I thought I'd hit the mother load of axles. Wheel and tires were all over the place.
Turns out that they clean and repair used mobile home axles and wheels to send back to the trailer manufacturer for reuse. If I remember correctly, the tires could not be used again and were scraped. They wouldn't sell me anything.

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Chris

12-25-2003 05:35:00




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 Re: christmas trailer in reply to matthewh, 12-24-2003 19:50:50  
When you put the rim on the hub make sure the rim and contact points on the center are clean. The wheel should self center but make sure you tighten the locks evenly. To balance them I would find someone that has the equipment to balance them on the trailer. Some shops have equipment that can spin the wheel on the trailer and balance the entire rotating assembly. You have to take care to reinstall the wheel in the same spot on the center if you ever have them off after this is done to keep them balanced. Had this done on an old truck I used to have and it worked great.

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