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ron corkum

12-23-2003 17:53:30




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This is not exactly a tractor question but it is an engine problem.A linkage problem with the throttle sticking a quarter to a third of the way open with my engine.I decided to buy a can of linkage cleaner and carried it with me.One day since the weather has turned colder the linkage began sticking again.I grabbed my new can of cleaner and with the engine running at part throddle proceded to remove the breather and spray the linkage.This was great! Next I thought a little shot to each side of the choke flapper was in order.However,As a result some of this spray was pulled down through the carb and into the engine.This did not concern me immediately because I knew such products as Bardall are used through the carb intake. Then there was a loud ting type of sound and the engine sounded like a thresh machine and shut itself down.I was horrified with the result.To see if it had seized I tried the starter and to my surprise it immediately started.I shut it down immediately to prevent further damage. The engine is not sized.It cranks over easily on the starter but I have not had it running since that fatal day. Horrified at what may have happened to this excellent working engine,I left it for a few weeks wondering what to do.Examining the exterior of the engine lately I discovered a spark plug hanging in a plug wire cap - last plug left side from engine front.Upon a closer examination it became evident that this was the center blown out of the spark plug,the metal portion still remaining in the head.
If anyone can venture a theory as to what happened here,I would be most interested in reading your assessment to help me decide what to do from here.This is a 351 Ford Galaxie in which I have burned regular fuel most of the time.Help!!
I have been offered this solution.Does it sound valid?
Replace the damaged plug then add auto transmission fluid to the gas tank and trickle some down the carb. If the engine will start this will lubricate and free up any carbon and the engine will leevl out and run smooth again??What are your suggestions.Thanks up front for any help anyone out there may be able to offer me.
Merry Christmas everyone!

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RunnyNose Bob

12-24-2003 04:32:09




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 Re: engine problem in reply to ron corkum, 12-23-2003 17:53:30  
I doubt that spraying the choke plate caused your problem, as you say, you know about trickling ATF, Water, whatever down the carb to break up the carbon. However, I came to the conclusion 30 years ago that Champion spark plugs are pure s**t, and now since they are marketed for the DIY'er, and homeowner, there is no reason to think otherwise.



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wdTom

12-24-2003 18:40:51




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 Re: Re: engine problem in reply to RunnyNose Bob, 12-24-2003 04:32:09  
I won't disagree that some plugs may be better than others, but it may have to do with the engine too. I have an 86 slant 6 and I had put a set of ACs in it. Ran OK but had a little miss once in a while, and not just right when pulling hard. I check and set and replaced everything I and others could think of, except the plugs as they were new. Then I thought "whet the hel*" it isn't much more money compared to what I have already spent to try another set of plugs, another brand. So I put Champions in, had always run them but store didn't have them when I put the ACs in, and it is still running great. Again, I won't argue that some plugs and some engines don't agree with each other, but I don't think you can condem one brand for all applications.

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Champions

12-25-2003 05:28:56




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 Re: Re: Re: engine problem in reply to wdTom, 12-24-2003 18:40:51  
only good for chrysler products and lawn mower engines



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old

12-23-2003 20:32:33




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 Re: engine problem in reply to ron corkum, 12-23-2003 17:53:30  
I'd do a compression test on all the cylinders, and if all of them are close I'd put a new plug in and some marvel mystrery oil in the tank and see if it would run. If it does and it sounds good then run it but watch for problems, check oil etc daily for a week or 2 and if all seems good then drive it.



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CH

12-23-2003 18:14:02




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 Re: engine problem in reply to ron corkum, 12-23-2003 17:53:30  
Could just be a coinsidence. I was driving down the highway years ago and my GMC Sierra starting sounding like crud and running rough. Same thing, plug center blew out. You get a defective plug once and a while. Or, could have been an inrush of cold from the can spray instead the mist of fuel cooled the plug and shot the center out.



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greenbeanman

12-23-2003 21:01:20




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 Re: Re: engine problem in reply to CH, 12-23-2003 18:14:02  
I too, have had the center of a plug blow out. This was on the original 1949 Chevy 216 6-banger.

The question I have is what was the brand of your plug that blew the center out?

For me it was a Champion.



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CH

12-23-2003 21:27:51




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 Re: Re: Re: engine problem in reply to greenbeanman, 12-23-2003 21:01:20  
Hey Green,
Champion.



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jerry

12-23-2003 23:13:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: engine problem in reply to CH, 12-23-2003 21:27:51  
get rid of those champions especially in an older ford.who ever suggested the marvel mystery oil is right on.



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John K

12-24-2003 06:57:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: engine problem in reply to jerry, 12-23-2003 23:13:00  
Had a friend that had a tune up done to his Buic. They put in Champion spark plugs. the car ran fine until it warmed up then became gutless, could not move under its own power. Replaced with AC Delco and the car ran like a top.



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