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Diesel engine question... starting after on its si

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Scott #2

12-11-2003 17:58:54




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Started it up after it was on its side for about 20 minuites and it smoked like crazy, didnt before it went over. I ran it for about 15 min and the smoke cleared up a good bit but never totally stopped, then I shut it down because I had to go somewhere. Will this clear up If I run it longer? And what could be causing the smoke. I dont know much about diesel construction and oil management in the block/sump. Everything else is fine. Its a brand new engine I'm a little concerned right now, all this thanks to a rambuncious friend of mine.

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Heat Houser

12-12-2003 08:58:31




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 Re: Diesel engine question... starting after on it in reply to Scott #2, 12-11-2003 17:58:54  
After laying on it's side for 20 minutes you really should have pulled the injectors and rolled the engine over with the starter. If enough oil gets past the rings to the top side of the cylinder, you may get a hydrostatic lock and bend a rod. Oil is not compressable like air. Did the unit crank over easily on the first start after getting it back on it's feet? If it kind of locked up, you had too much oil on top.

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scott#2

12-12-2003 09:25:21




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 Re: Re: Diesel engine question... starting after o in reply to Heat Houser, 12-12-2003 08:58:31  
It started up easy enough. I did let it set a while before starting it. It did smoke after the rebuild a bit, but not like this and now with some sputtering too. When I shut it down, it was still smoking more then, than during the hour or two of run time it had on it. I still havent run it yet today but will later and we will see.

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Fred OH

12-12-2003 08:13:37




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 Re: Diesel engine question... starting after on it in reply to Scott #2, 12-11-2003 17:58:54  
If it's a brand new engine, wouldn't it tend to smoke a little more till the rings seated? Fred



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Larry NE IL

12-11-2003 20:01:00




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 Re: Diesel engine question... starting after on it in reply to Scott #2, 12-11-2003 17:58:54  
Hi Scott,
I'm in the excavating bus. for about 40 yrs. Seen at least 15 machines go over. Mostly dozers and scrapers. Aside from the ones that went off a high stockpile and got bent up, we always just stood them up and kept on going. I don't think you've got anything to worry about. Larry



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Wayne

12-11-2003 19:07:59




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 Re: Diesel engine question... starting after on it in reply to Scott #2, 12-11-2003 17:58:54  
Hey Scott, this sounds pretty normal. When one gets tipped over a certain amount of oil can get past the piston rings. When it gets by the rings it can get also get a small amount into the intake and exhause mainfold depending on what valve happens to be open at the time. All of this oil together in the wrong places will cause just what you saw, massive amounts of smoke. It whould eventually burn itself out with no lasting effects. You didn't say how it got tipped, and I assume you didn't get hurt, and that's the good thing. Something everybody used to tell me, "Just remember, shiny side up, rubber side down....." Take care and be safe...

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scott#2

12-12-2003 06:22:00




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 Re: Re: Diesel engine question... starting after o in reply to Wayne, 12-11-2003 19:07:59  
Thanks for everyones comments on the smoke, I feel a little bit better now. Guess I'll just let it burn out for a while. We were loading up on a narrow steel flatbed in the mud and rain (wrong right there) and my friend (should have been me) was driving. I had a course of 6x6s straped down to the trailer for a job and Kenny tried to bump the front over them. The left rear came off, the tractor went one way, Kenny went the other. I've never seen him move that fast. No one got hurt, just the muffler and my pride. I knew it wouldnt work, Kenny was speachless, couldnt even string a sentence together. Had to go get the loader to right it. I just finished rebuilding the thing and it had about an hour on it. Lesson here is... load your own stuff. Ford 4600.

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rod

12-11-2003 18:07:30




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 Re: Diesel engine question... starting after on it in reply to Scott #2, 12-11-2003 17:58:54  
if you have oil pressure you should be ok it will take some time to get oil out of the cylinders I worked in an open pit mine driving 100 ton off highway trucks several were tipped over some more than once and they all functioned quite well afterwards.
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Oldfarmboy Jim

12-11-2003 22:28:46




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 Re: Re: Diesel engine question... starting after o in reply to rod, 12-11-2003 18:07:30  
With a friend like that, you need to hide your keys and still carry a bundle of liability insurance. Jim



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