Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Tractor Talk Discussion Forum

should I install a engine heater

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
farmall farmer

12-09-2003 17:37:16




Report to Moderator

recently got a 806 to fill in with and it is really hard to start. It takes a squirt of starting fluid and then maybe another to keep it going till it is running smoothly. It has a good engine but they are just really cold blooded like most tractors made in the 60's were. I can install a tank-type engine heater and just plug it in a hour or 2 before I use it or I can just start it cold. when I need it. I usually know before hand when I am going to be using it. It will be the #1 used tractor this winter. I do not feed cattle or anything but will use it to scrape snow if it ever snows enough and do misc things around the farm.

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Alberta Mike

12-10-2003 11:04:12




Report to Moderator
 Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to farmall farmer, 12-09-2003 17:37:16  
The circulating pump-types are good, however someone mentioned that they don't necessarily work all the time depending on the configuration of the coolant routing in your engine. In my opinion, the simplest and best is a regular block heater which heats the coolant via installation in one of the removeable frostplugs (or casting plugs as some call them) that are in the side of most engine blocks. A couple or three hours of being plugged in and what a difference it makes. The coolant actually moves or circulates a bit by convection movement in this simple system. One more suggestion is to keep your battery inside the house, maybe in the back porch, etc. There is NOTHING like a warm battery to give good performance. The amount of power a battery loses when cold is unbelieveable. Hopefully you have a tractor which isn't too difficult to do this with.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere

12-10-2003 06:32:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to farmall farmer, 12-09-2003 17:37:16  
Magnetic heater to warm the lube oil, don't worry about overheating. It doesn't happen with 200W on a diesel tractor engine sump. A battery blanket or mat underneath with allow the battery to supply it's rated power and charge faster. A maintence charger as previously mentioned is a real good idea too. The frost plug heaters tend to be lower wattage and are better for 24/7 standby or modest temps. The tank heater can disrupt engine cooling if improperly connected. Or not even heat the engine, just the rad. A 1500W tank heater if properly installed does heat an engine in the shortest time. Ether is a last resort for life and death emergencies. It's still common to see it sprayed into engines with oilbath aircleaners too. Rather than being pulled into the engine it just disolves into the oil. After enough sprays & trys then an accumulated woof of ether will hammer the engine.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Hal

12-10-2003 05:51:09




Report to Moderator
 Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to farmall farmer, 12-09-2003 17:37:16  
In addition to the heater it is a good idea to put the battery(ies) on a low 2-amp charge for a few hours or overnight, The charging will warm the battery.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Catskill Pete

12-09-2003 22:55:55




Report to Moderator
 Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to farmall farmer, 12-09-2003 17:37:16  
I would go with the tank type heater. I don't know what part of the country you are located in but here in cold country magnetics are considered a joke. The heaters are well worth it just to save wear and tear on starter and electric system.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Richard Fazio

12-10-2003 05:55:11




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to Catskill Pete, 12-09-2003 22:55:55  
Catskill Pete, Where are you located? I'm in the Catskills also. I'm in the town of Acra, Route 23, about 15 minute west of 87.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Catskill Pete

12-10-2003 09:42:04




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to Richard Fazio, 12-10-2003 05:55:11  
Roxbury off rt 30 in Delaware co.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
FROM FARMALL FARMER

12-09-2003 20:35:02




Report to Moderator
 Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to farmall farmer, 12-09-2003 17:37:16  
I have a magentic engien heater. What if I was to stick it one the oil pan? Do you think that would help much?? Guess I will try it tomorrow morning. been lookin on ebay for one and looks like 15 for a new 1500 watt tank type heater



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
earlschieb

12-10-2003 05:47:23




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to FROM FARMALL FARMER , 12-09-2003 20:35:02  
I would install a block heater, the type that goes in and replaces a freeze plug if it was me.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
paul

12-10-2003 05:42:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to FROM FARMALL FARMER , 12-09-2003 20:35:02  
I would go with a good tank heater, can find them at most farm outlets. You won't be sorry for your uses. A frost plug block heater works well also.

The magnetic ones are typically 200 watts, and help a little, but not enough to really do the job unless you use it 24/7.

Skip the oil tube heaters, they tend to cook the oil, lots of heat on a small surface....

--->Paul



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Russ

12-09-2003 18:18:50




Report to Moderator
 Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to farmall farmer, 12-09-2003 17:37:16  
I have a magnetic heater that requires no instalation that helps somewhat. it is low wattage (200) so as not to cook oil or start fires, but I think it helps, I use it along with a block heater on my 4600 JD. this gives me summer-like starting with below zero temps (no smoke in shed!)



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dean Myran

12-09-2003 19:13:31




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to Russ, 12-09-2003 18:18:50  
I recommend getting yourself an inline radiator heator hose heater which are common cheap and work good. Otherwise you risk losing your patience and using some starting fluid and sooner or later you will blow out your head gasket or more, which will cost you a lot more money!



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Robert in W. Mi

12-09-2003 19:51:15




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to Dean Myran, 12-09-2003 19:13:31  
Depending how the lower rad hose is routed, an inline rad hose heater may NOT work!!!

Best one is the in block heater, fastest one is the big ones that go on the firewall or? They also use a lot more electricity.

I really hate useing ether, and i'd opt for the "in block" heater if it was mine.

Robert



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
bill in colo

12-09-2003 18:18:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to farmall farmer, 12-09-2003 17:37:16  
By all means a heater is the way to go. it makes a 50 degree day out of 20 below!!!!! !!!!



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
DoubleR

12-09-2003 19:41:52




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to bill in colo, 12-09-2003 18:18:00  
I've had good luck with inline heater installed in lower radiator hose. Detemine the diameter of the hose and you can uaually get one at a automotive store for about 20 bucks and they are easy to install. Put it on a timer or plug it in for a bit before you use the tractor. Hope this helps



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
steveormary

12-09-2003 20:51:25




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: should I install a engine heater in reply to DoubleR, 12-09-2003 19:41:52  

Never had much luck with magnetic heaters. Best to use a lower radiator hose heater or an external tank heater. And put it on a timer if you can.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy