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T16

10-23-2003 21:01:18




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I have a 825 Bobcat, it has a 30 gal hyd resivor. I want to be able to plug in some type of heater or tie it into my engine tank heater, so the hyd oil will be warm on startup. I am goin to change the hyd oil real soon and would like to install/make some type of heater or circulating tube when I have the covers off to reseal them, it gets moisture in the hyd oil during the summer when its out side. unfortunatly I dont have a heated shop to keep it in during the winter here in Minnesota, but I need it for doing chores and moving snow.
Any help or suggestions will be appreciated and Thank you in advance.

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RJ-AZ

10-24-2003 19:47:09




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 Re: heating hyd oil in reply to T16, 10-23-2003 21:01:18  
My brother in Mont. uses an electric heater on his Hesston stackfeeder. I think he got it at an AG store in Billings. It helps when it's real cold like 30 below. It was 48 below a couple of years ago and he was the only rancher that had his cattle fed before 2:00pm that day.



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T16

10-24-2003 20:01:01




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 Re: Re: heating hyd oil in reply to RJ-AZ, 10-24-2003 19:47:09  
yeah I normally gotta do my chores and snow movin after I get home from work, so im already tired and discusted and dont really wanna deal with a slugish machine.. the plan is ta have it on a timer so its warm and ready ta go when I get home.. im gonna try puttin a loop of copper tubing in the resivor and bringing the ends out and hookin um between the engine tank heater and the engine on the output side of the tank heater. or adding a seperate resivor and tankheater just for that.

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RJ-AZ

10-24-2003 20:31:04




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 Re: Re: Re: heating hyd oil in reply to T16, 10-24-2003 20:01:01  
Are you near Frostbite Falls MN? Check around for a dipstick or screw in type heater. There ain't much room for plumbing on those machines.



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Fred

10-24-2003 16:27:52




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 Re: heating hyd oil in reply to T16, 10-23-2003 21:01:18  
I have owned Bobcats for over 10 years now and use them year round. I have never seen the need to heat the hydrolic oil before you start it. After you start the bobcat in very cold weather let it sit and idle for about 10 minuters before you try to work it. If you need to move it as soon as you start it just go at 1/4 throttle and it will be okay. When it warms up you are ready to get at it. Use the Bobcat brand oil and it is thin enough to work well at all temps. I make a living with my bobcats and use them but never abuse them. I have to pay the bills for repairs so that makes me careful about the way I treat them.

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Mike

10-24-2003 16:19:32




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 Re: heating hyd oil in reply to T16, 10-23-2003 21:01:18  
I wouldn't worry about the hydraulic heater. Trying to keep 30 gallons of oil warm just isn't going to happen. Probably 10-12 gallons of it is in cylinders,pumps lines and motors. Just plug in the block heater and when it starts let it run for 5-10 min. to warm up the oil. My 785 NH skid steer doesn't have a hyd. heater on it, just a block heater. It gets started every day to feed in North Dakota. Just make sure you have a good battery and keep the block heater plugged in all the time if you are going to use it daily.

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fredo.

10-23-2003 21:36:58




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 Re: heating hyd oil in reply to T16, 10-23-2003 21:01:18  
if you could plug it into 110 or 220. take the heating setup for hot water tank, could set thermostat at high or low.
fredo.



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toolman

10-23-2003 21:51:58




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 Re: Re: heating hyd oil in reply to fredo., 10-23-2003 21:36:58  
what about those magnetic heaters they just stick to the metal case and you plug them in .



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Snowey

10-24-2003 21:46:12




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 Re: Re: Re: heating hyd oil in reply to toolman, 10-23-2003 21:51:58  
R J Use magnetic heater but place it on pump , as that is lowest point of hyd. system . Any water will go to lowest point and water will freeze up your pump lines . Also after the unit has stayed in the cold and not started for some time , crack open main drain at tank to get water out of lowest part of tank . After geting water drained off , replace plug , run system slow to get up to runing temp. if unit is needed at that time . Snowey

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Snowey

10-24-2003 21:30:49




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 Re: Re: Re: heating hyd oil in reply to toolman, 10-23-2003 21:51:58  
R J Use magnetic heater but place it on pump as that is lowest point of hyd. system . Any water will go to lowest point and water will freeze up your pump lines . Also after the unit has stayed in the cold , crack main drain at tank to get water out of tank after geting water drained off replace plug , run system to get up to runing temp. Snowey



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