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Planing a workshop with living quarters- need inpu

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JRC Farms

07-12-2003 05:39:12




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We are planning to build a 40x60 shop on our land with an addition which will be our living quarters. We currently have a toy tractor customizing business, JRC Farms at DandM collectibles. We are also starting up a Cad/Cam CNC plasma cutting business soon-sheet metal up to 1 inch thick- in which we will be building metal arts and crafts, metal furniture and metal parts for individuals. Also, we will be restoring tractors and implements, raising cows and horses, etc....

Does anyone have any suggestions about the shop/living quarters combo? (going to spray the wood frame with fire preventative liquid)

Any other suggestions?

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Slowpoke

07-22-2003 00:30:32




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 Re: Planing a workshop with living quarters- need in reply to JRC Farms, 07-12-2003 05:39:12  
Ag zoning or not, you need whatever permits are required for a residence. It's essentialy a small house in or attatched to a large garage. So it has to meet code for same. They also may add school fees to the permit for a residence, but not a shop.
I had to write two paragraphs on why I needed a a shower in the shop bathroom, and I couldn't have an "office". because that's associated with a business. But I could have a "storeroom". My plans are stamped "No Occupancy".
And your 40 x 60 will be too small for all you plan to do.

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John Ne.

07-13-2003 20:30:27




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 Re: Planing a workshop with living quarters- need in reply to JRC Farms, 07-12-2003 05:39:12  
I'd definitely have a separate outside entrance, and a concrete block firewall sounds good too. Separate heating and cooling, actually in a 40x60, would hard not to eat up a lot of space by expanding the living area, but could easily keep it to 12x20, for one person. John in Ne.



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John Fugit

07-13-2003 09:26:43




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 Re: Planing a workshop with living quarters- need in reply to JRC Farms, 07-12-2003 05:39:12  
I've seen some of your custom toys. No wonder they won't let you leave. You all do a fantastic job! I want one of your 8650 Deere's, bad. I have a "shop/apartment" like you're talking about. My wife and I lived in it for a year and a half, while we tore down the old house, and built a new one. I had zoning approval. It's on ag land, and I submitted the plans as an in-shop office, with restroom, showers, and offices. They don't have to know everything you're doing. I have a separate address, and mail box. We set up two bedrooms, a "family room" and a kitchen. (Offices need kitchens too). What I did to isolate the living quarters from the shop was to build a concrete block "firewall" between them. Both parts have separate heating and cooling capabilities. That prevents the shop smell from entering the "house". I agree with the idea of the living quarters being upstairs. I have a storage area under the living quarters. that makes for easier plumbing, and running the ductwork. It also affords a little privacy, when my employee's would be in the shop. Hope this helps. (If it does, I'll take any of your John Deere customs as thanks!) John Fugit

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kyhayman

07-13-2003 08:08:23




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 Re: Planing a workshop with living quarters- need in reply to JRC Farms, 07-12-2003 05:39:12  
I have several friends who have set-ups like you are describing. A lot of small horse farms use half (or all) of an eve loft as apartments. Seems most of the ones I have seen are loft type (plumbing is a lot easier). Have helped a lot of folks build and remodel stuff like this. Since I can't speak for the laws in your area email me if you have questions. Fortunately the Nazi's haven't taken over completely here. Long as you don't set new electric service and it is for ag use you can still do pretty much what you want on your land.

I've got a bent of a barn walled off with a bed and some essentials if I need to stay at the farm during calving or foaling.

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Ray

07-12-2003 05:57:46




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 Re: Planing a workshop with living quarters- need in reply to JRC Farms, 07-12-2003 05:39:12  
Don't know where your at,but that's Illegal in
some states,(ohio) better check your zoning.



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Ducknose Bob

07-12-2003 13:01:31




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 Re: Re: Planing a workshop with living quarters- n in reply to Ray, 07-12-2003 05:57:46  
Why would it be illegal? I can see the zoning issue, but other than that?



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Ray

07-12-2003 18:06:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Planing a workshop with living quarter in reply to Ducknose Bob, 07-12-2003 13:01:31  
If it's against zoning it's Illegal,that's what
the law means.



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Dick in Ore..

07-12-2003 18:46:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Planing a workshop with living qua in reply to Ray, 07-12-2003 18:06:31  
Imagine that!! How sad..

One would think as long as the building is safely built and a plan has been passed by a planning department, it should not be illegal. We have let this illegal crap get completly out of control.. How sad when people believe the city, county or state can tell you what you can and can't do on your own property.. Imagine,, we pay taxes so we can be restricted on what we can and can't do on our own property..

Somethings wrong with this picture..

Dick

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Ray

07-12-2003 21:03:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planing a workshop with living in reply to Dick in Ore.., 07-12-2003 18:46:11  
I know of 2 people who built buildings with this
in mind,and both where warned by zoning officals
to stop.A local grain elevator built a building
without a permit,(didn't think they needed one
for ag use),the state came in and said tear it
down,or don't use it for two years.They let them
store grain in it but nothing else for two years.



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