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Rarest of Rare Tractors??

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BN from MN

01-08-2003 20:37:47
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What would be some examples of the rarest tractors that are known to exist and what would the value be of them? I know this is a general question but I would like to read the responses. Thanks.




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please read, it makes the most sense

01-14-2003 10:14:59
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
this here fella Rob makes the best argument or as gentlemen agree not to agree, kindly, but that udlx was a grand tractor, not much liked in its day but really unique and the other thought I had was to that three-point that was handy too!

Ted



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Underdog

01-11-2003 14:28:07
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
There is a tractor in the city park in Monticello, Utah. It must be one of the rarest. I have looked it over but can not remember the name. If any one knows let us know. Thanks



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Dave 2N

01-10-2003 03:11:15
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
The Essex Tri-Directional gets my vote.



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dean

01-09-2003 19:49:09
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
deere dain tractor would be most expensive as well as being very rare..only one running..two others accounted for ..established value..that is what was actually offered for the restored one..1.5 million dollars..none other can top that price.



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It is a fake.

01-10-2003 08:53:16
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to dean, 01-09-2003 19:49:09  
That Dain tractor is a fake. Yes it is a Dain tractor. No it is not a John Deere. The only one that thinks it is a JD is the owner.



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dean

01-10-2003 15:54:34
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 Re: Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to It is a fake., 01-10-2003 08:53:16  
the owner and jd corp have records to back up the statement that it is the 1st series of deere tractor..call jd corperate and ask them...they even tried to buy it from him but being that they disputed his word for so long until they found the records he will not sell to them..say what you will but it has been documented and is still worth 1.5 mill..what do you have that is even close to that?
if you have proof that it is otherwise then share it with all of us..also would like a list of your sources and we can get to the bottom of this

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Gene Davis

01-09-2003 19:34:11
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
How many Earthmasters have you people seen lately? Gene



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John

01-09-2003 19:01:16
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
The most recent rare tractor is those IHC 2+2 series in last larger size they made before folding. I heard one was sold in Iowa & purchased back so they could scrap project.What is model, 7488 ??



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Kevin Anderson

12-01-2004 00:09:56
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to John, 01-09-2003 19:01:16  
How would a guy be able to get some picture's of a IHC 7488 2+2 tractor, or even go see one?



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Matt Yoder

11-02-2006 16:21:55
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Kevin Anderson, 12-01-2004 00:09:56  
I will send you some pictures of mine if you send me your email address.



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deadeye

01-09-2003 15:43:02
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
How about a Minneapolis Moline UDLX for one of the rarest around today.



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Big red 460 diesel

01-09-2003 12:29:56
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
I would have to say one of the most rare was the AC series 2 D-15 d bird cage only seven were built. I found this in my tracor calender.



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Andrew from KY

01-09-2003 12:26:44
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
It migh not be really rare but how about an International 1068?



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Steven@nd

01-09-2003 14:34:19
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Andrew from KY, 01-09-2003 12:26:44  
1068? Never heard of it. Are you thinking the 1468 and 1568 with V-8 engines? Just wondering, maybe it does exist.



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Andrew from KY

01-09-2003 21:39:32
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 Re: Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Steven@nd, 01-09-2003 14:34:19  
Yeah I meant the 1468, thanks for the correction.



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Don LC

01-10-2003 11:32:47
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Andrew from KY, 01-09-2003 21:39:32  
I'll be 67 next week and I have never seen a MM in the fieslds of southwest Ohlo or southeastern Iniana........



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hmmmmmmmmm

01-09-2003 12:03:52
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
How about the JD C ??????



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redrev

01-09-2003 11:00:20
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
The John Deere Standard GP with tri-cycle front end. I don't mean a GP Wide-Tread or a GP P. I had one, but I had to sell it to buy milk for the kids. It was one of 23 Built.



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Rob

01-09-2003 08:18:18
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
Rare examples of many tractors are out there. I have always been facinated with those that were mostly rejected initially and then became the standard of the industry. McCormick made a four wheel drive tractor (I've seen one personnaly) but most farmers needed too much ground to turn them around, so innovation had to stew on that idea for a while. The Minniapollis Moline UDLX or Delux cab U model was soundly rejected by many farmers (many units had their cabs removed so dealers could sell them) but yet the remaining examples are coveted. Just look at all modern large equipment, all with cabs and four wheel drive. Though not as rare as in production numbers these tractors were revolutionary. In weighing tractor rare-ness viablility of the company and production numbers should matter to some degree, no offense, `I could build a tractor and it would be a one of a kind, not necessarily a great collectable.' my two cents

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Horton Merganser III

01-09-2003 07:47:27
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
The 1925 Gunther Till-All was so rare (and of course still is) that none were ever made. Apparently they are quite hard to find even to this day.



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Never seen one of these!

01-09-2003 14:06:18
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Horton Merganser III, 01-09-2003 07:47:27  
How long was the production run on these?



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Horton Merganser III

01-09-2003 15:24:43
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 Re: Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Never seen one of these! , 01-09-2003 14:06:18  
Not very long according to tractor historians. They were almost made in Lame Duck, Oklahoma and production lasted until the first coffee break in the morning. A coupla gals from the seamstress shop down the street dropped into the factory and the factory boys sort of got more interested in them than the production line. The rest of course is history ... by noon the whole blamed operation was into chapter 11.

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Don't forget the

01-09-2003 11:58:34
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Horton Merganser III, 01-09-2003 07:47:27  
ETD!



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John (C-IL)

01-09-2003 06:21:20
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
There are a lot of tractors with low production numbers that only have 1 or 2 examples known to exist. The ILLINOIS tractor built by the Bloomington Silo Co., Only 2 known to exist. The Elgin Tractor; only one known to exist. The Hume tractor. Only one known to exist. The HT340 IH experimental tractor owned by the Smithsonian and displayed at last years Red Power Roundup. Hart Parr #3 which is owned by the Smithsonian and will be displayed at the National HPOCA National Summer Show in Penfield, IL this summer. How about the AC 10-18, I think only 8 or 9 are known to exist and one of them sold in PA a couple of years ago for $31,000. The list of these tractors is huge, I've just named a few that can be seen on a regular basis. John

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John (C-IL)

01-09-2003 06:20:31
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
There are a lot of tractors with low production numbers that only have 1 or 2 examples known to exist. The ILLINOIS tractor built by the Bloomington Silo Co., Only 2 known to exist. The Elgin Tractor; only one known to exist. The Hume tractor. Only one known to exist. The HT340 IH experimental tractor owned by the Smithsonian and displayed at last years Red Power Roundup. Hart Parr #3 which is owned by the Smithsonian and will be displayed at the National HPOCA National Summer Show in Penfield, IL this summer. How about the AC 10-18, I think only 8 or 9 are known to exist and one of them sold in PA a couple of years ago for $31,000. The list of these tractors is huge, I've just named a few that can be seen on a regular basis. John

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Andy Asberry

02-23-2005 09:06:14
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to John (C-IL), 01-09-2003 06:20:31  
John, I realize your post is over two years old. I hope you still visit here and have the same e-mail address.

I have an operators manual and parts list for an Illinois tractor. It still has the warranty registration card attached inside. Yours is the only reference to an Illinois that I have found on the net.

Perhaps you or anyone else could point me to a place to properly preserve this manual. Perhaps to an owner of an Illinois. Thanks.

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Ray in WA

01-09-2003 05:51:05
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
There was, I beleive, A Titon on YT Photo ads listed for $120,000. It didn't stay long. Ray



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Matt

01-09-2003 05:24:03
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
the Matbro Mastiff would be another rare tractor, only 25 or so were built and 6 accounted for.

one was sold in the uk in farm condition and it went for 43,000 pound



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Hugh MacKay

01-09-2003 04:59:37
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
When it comes to true rare tractors the tractors built by IH, JD, MH, Oliver, Cockshutt, Case, MM, etc don't even come close. One of the rarest is American Steel Tractor, only 5 were built. There are many many more like that. Get a copy of CH Wendel's book Encylopedia of American Farm Tractors.



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Richard

01-09-2003 04:59:07
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
Wendall's encyclopedia of tractors listed the Peoria as extinct and believed no examples are left. I saw one at a midwest tractor show driven by an 98 year old fellow. This may be the only surviving Peoria tractor (looks like the Little Bull tractor). On the whole subject, any one example left would put it in the museum catagory and its worth is what someone would be willing to pay for it. Some example just wouldn't be for sale period.

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pj

01-09-2003 04:47:00
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
1933 Allis chalmers wc there were only 28 made in 1933 with the wakeshaw engine.



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Woodbeef

01-09-2003 04:37:52
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
Even though these two are more recent tractors,neither was built in large quantities. Only about 30 or so of each were sold. The 1502 six wheel bogie tractor and the bend-in-the-middle H-800 both from Valmet.



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Steven@nd

01-09-2003 02:30:50
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
The JD Dain 3 wheeled tractor, all wheel drive. Very few ever built. I believe there is 1 in restored/working condition and only a couple others that are in major disrepair.

There are other rare tractors, such as Farmall diesel high crops of which in some series there were only 5 to 25 or so built.

As far as the future of rare tractors, I'm hanging on to our 544 of which there were around 6000 or so made. Newer models will be rarer in the years to come since they switched models so often there weren't many made. For example the IH 6788 2+2 only had 348 ever made. Also the 3488 hydro had only around 500 copies made.

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Shane

01-09-2003 05:05:25
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Steven@nd, 01-09-2003 02:30:50  
I believe that the Ertl dicast of the 6788 is also very very rare. I once read an article stating it was worth some where around $3000. Not sure if that is correct but it is possible.



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Ernie Bob

01-08-2003 22:24:13
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
The Article Spotlight - The Collection of a Lifetime from today 1-8-03 should give you some insight. It's on the YT Home Page.



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Green Envy

01-08-2003 21:21:33
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 Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to BN from MN, 01-08-2003 20:37:47  
I saw an 3 wheeled Emerson Brangintam. The owner said it was the only that existed. We have a 1932 Caterpillar Auto Patrol No 7. Only 125 were made with ours being the 13th one made. According to what I was told (true or not) there are 2 more besides ours that are accounted for. However, being a road grader, I would be surprised to see it go for more than what we put into it which is not much. Tractors I way more collectable than road graders.

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Kris Bacheller

06-21-2004 13:34:14
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Green Envy, 01-08-2003 21:21:33  
Looking for parts for a 1929 No. 11 Caterpillar Auto Patrol. Any idea where we might find success?



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Allen

01-09-2003 18:25:53
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 Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Green Envy, 01-08-2003 21:21:33  
Don't forget the Gaar-Scott Tigerpull -- Rumely swallowed that company whole to put that competitor away.

My 20th Century steam traction engine is fairly rare bird too (2 running complete, 1 running partial, 1 chassis w/out boiler, 1 cylinder assembly)



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Green Envy

01-09-2003 20:52:59
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 Re: Re: Re: Rarest of Rare Tractors?? in reply to Allen, 01-09-2003 18:25:53  
That ford pickup frame adds a little bit of class I think.



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