22 ammo

JR Frye · Apr 23, 2014

I know this has nothing to do with a tractor: But I thought I would put this out here and see what you guys had to say :OK.
Here in iowa it is real hard to find 22 ammo in the sporting stores.like bass pro .shelds,sportsman ware house,just to name a few. or even in the farm and home stores.
who or where is it going and why is it that hard to find.
Many thanks and have a great day
JR FRYE

JRSutton · Apr 23, 2014

been discussed here many times - probably more under "tool talk".

I think there was a shortage - people panicked and started stockpiling - now they can't make the stuff fast enough to keep up with demand.

Put some on the shelves and one customer will walk in and buy the whole shelf.

DeltaRed · Apr 23, 2014

You're not alone.There are no .22s here in western Colorado either.

gordy from Iowa · Apr 23, 2014

Found a couple boxes yesterday at Scheels, but about four of us in line for them. Could only buy two boxes.

J.Wondergem · Apr 23, 2014

The fellow where I get my reloading stuff told me it is a combination of things. 22 cal is cheaper to shoot. A lot of newbies shoot 22s. A lot of the automatic 223s by convertors to shoot 22. And then you have a bunch of people grabbing up all they can get there hands on and raising the price four times and selling it. Even the big box stores are selling guns above manufacturer retail selling price.

DaninKansas · Apr 23, 2014

Every store in my area has "rationed" it for the last 3-4 years. The most you can buy is 3 boxes of 50.

Some ammo venders at gun shows will let you buy as much as you want - but usually at 3-4 times the "normal" rate. The people that sell in unlimted quantities are usually charging 15 cents per round. There is one shop in my area that limits you to 3 boxes and charges 14 cents a round.

Gun Broker prices seem to be in the seventy-eighty dollar range for a true "brick" of .22s. Depending on the ammo people easily bid it up to 15-18 cents per round (Federals are cheaper, CCI is higher).

casenut1 · Apr 23, 2014

Local auction here every Wed. Sold 5 bricks at $55.00 a brick. 50 round boxes for $10.00 and 100 rounds of CCI for $17.50.Way to expensive for me.

DaninKansas · Apr 23, 2014

Actually most guns are now back to or close to "normal" pricing. Ar15s are for the most part back to 2008 pricing - the cheapest bottem of the line models that were at $550 - $600 range are in the $600-$650 range - 2 years ago they were in the $900-$1000 range. Higher end weapons have pretty much gone back to 2008 pricing. Some shops are still hoping to catch some one off guard and still have year old pricing on their weapons but there's a sucker born every minute.

Ammunition is still high though even though the market has pretty much recovered - except for the .22s.

Bryce Frazier · Apr 23, 2014

I have been trying to buy bricks for the last 2 years, they just aren't out there. The local Big R said that they get 1 or 2 bricks a week, and then they break them down and boost the price up, and they are all gone with in 30 min of the truck showing up!!

We use 22 for "pest control" and my stash was getting a little low, but I didn't realize how hard it was to get ammo until I tried!

Maybe because they can't control guns, they are controlling ammo.... Bryce

J.Wondergem · Apr 23, 2014

(quoted from post at 10:58:03 04/23/14) Actually most guns are now back to or close to "normal" pricing. Ar15s are for the most part back to 2008 pricing - the cheapest bottem of the line models that were at $550 - $600 range are in the $600-$650 range - 2 years ago they were in the $900-$1000 range. Higher end weapons have pretty much gone back to 2008 pricing. Some shops are still hoping to catch some one off guard and still have year old pricing on their weapons but there's a sucker born every minute.

Ammunition is still high though even though the market has pretty much recovered - except for the .22s.

Here, I was at Gander mountain last week looking at a carry gun. On sale, it was priced higher than the price suggested by the manufacturer.

Wilsonfire · Apr 23, 2014

I found out my local Academy gets ammo shipments early on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. We form an ammo line at 7:00 am and the store opens at 8:00. You can get practically anything you need. Bricks of .22 are simply a memory. 100 round boxes are sometimes available. Good luck!

71ford100 · Apr 23, 2014

I walked out of Cabelas in Sidney, NE with 2 boxes at $2.99 a box.

Billy NY · Apr 23, 2014

I see a local ad for $70-$90 500 rounds, did not check to see if its up, but it has been awhile, maybe people are finally hesitating on over paying, given its .22 and its hard to find, I'd have thought this would have been bought up too.

Well the darned old, heavier version of havahart trap I have, actually a borrowed one, which never sees use at their farm, so its been here for years, the darned 'chuck out smarts it ! I mean it does work, caught a skunk, and he was cool about me letting him out, just can't seem to trap a 'chuck with it lately, it has worked fine in the past, but that darned trigger mechanism, the 2 that butt together that balances the bait plate, I can't seem to get it set to where its not too sensitive or just breathe on the trap and it goes off, and you can tweak the linkages, how tight the doors butt against the sides, its made heavier than the new ones, its a double door, and the latest 'chuck I've tried to trap is a new one, he's a young one. Funny how 10 miles up the road, where this trap came from, the woodchucks and even deer are no trouble over there, no need to even put up fence around the garden, here.... I'm surrounded by both LOL !

Here I am trying to find ways not to use any ammo, and as I type there's another 'chuck in plain sight !

730 virgil · Apr 23, 2014

i do have a place where i can get 22s if i'm lucky
mosy place here on il wis state line you can't get them
i have a 380 auto for carry gun can't find shells for it either

rabbit-1 · Apr 23, 2014

Rather than bait the trap, I put the bait (muskmelon) on the ground, and set the trap over the top of it. By the time the 'chuck finally figures it out that he can't get to the bait... he's kinda stuck.

Moline_guy · Apr 23, 2014

This winter most of the shelves at the local gun shop were scarcely stocked and no .22's of any kind. Then earlier this spring the shelves were all full and several bricks of .22 and even small boxes of .22 mag. I picked up a brick of .22 and some .22 mag, figuring things were finally caught up and suppyly was getting back to normal. Went in the other day just to look around and everything was about cleaned out again and no .22 in any shape or form. I bought a 17 rifle last summer for rodent control, there always seems to be bullets for these on the shelf and it seems to perform as good as the .22.

Traditional Farmer · Apr 23, 2014

I always go in and buy all they have before the Hoarders get it(LOL)

uncle henry · Apr 23, 2014

i bought all i could afford before bush jr left the white house if i shoot like i have been i got about another 12 years of supply

Nick m · Apr 23, 2014

You have to scan websites multiple times per day. Cabelas has it quite regular but they sell out really fast. It's definitely obtainable though, I've bought quite a bit since last fall and don't even look for it anymore.

ohiojeff · Apr 23, 2014

Recently visited a new store here called "Fin Feather and Fur" I bought a couple of boxes of .22s for $6.99 a box of 50. probably 100 boxes on shelf. And no one else in line behind me.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 23, 2014

This whole .22 shortage could be over in one day if the stores would require you to bring in you empty .22 shells to be reycled (brass you know) this would get rid of all the hoarders and bring things back to normal. All all the hoarders would be stuck with their huge supply of ammo. Then the prices would return to 1.89 to 2.50 for a box of 50.

Wheat Farmer · Apr 23, 2014

I found three boxes of 325 count for $45 each last Sept. Put my name on a list for a Brick at that time. They came in a few weeks ago. $28. Don't understand it. Have a brick of 22 Mags on order. Of course what I would like to have is a normal stock 223. Ground hogs are trying to take over.

Mark - IN. · Apr 23, 2014

Remember the Sandy Hook shootings out east? Involved as reported, a .223 Bushmaster and some sort of 9mm pistol. Imediately, at least the .223 Bushmaster was widely reported to be an "assult" rifle, whatever that is, with immediate calls for a ban on at least .223 Bushmasters, and .223 (5.56mm) ammo. If you remember, as a matter of very public record, there was even a Congressional Bill launched by a California senator that named 300+ guns and certain "assult" ammo that needed to be outlawed, but the bill fell short in votes and died without ever making it to the House for Joint Resolution status. One of the "assult" ammos was .223 that is a common ammo beyond what are termed "assult" rifles. So...at the time, everyone began buying up .223 and the more potent 5.56, driving the prices of 50GR .223 to double and triple, per round, emptying the shelves nationwide. Because it became so expensive and unavailable, there was and maybe still is a desire for .22LR in "AR" style rifles (AR-15 versus AR-22), because when it comes to plinking (practicing), .22LR still is much cheaper. .22LR used to be .04/.05 cents per round a couple of years ago, lead and full metal jacket hollow point. Now, when you can get it, its about .09/.10 cents per round, lead, and .10/.12 cents per round hollow point full metal jacket.

That is what happened, a matter of very public record.

Mark

Chris(WA) · Apr 23, 2014

Bought a brick at Cabella's yesterday. They had quite a bit of stock. $27.99.
Second time I have been in a large sporting goods store and they had a stock. Maybe the end of the shortage is in sight...

Nick167 · Apr 23, 2014

Fin feather and fur hear in Ohio has some but i go to sportsman's den its closer to me and they have 525 boxes of blazers for about 30 used to get them for 12 or 15

Pair-a-dice farm · Apr 23, 2014

Walmart is starting to have it more available. My son bought 6 boxes of 50 a couple of weeks ago and last week they had bricks. People like to criticize Walmart but they never jacked up the price.

ss55 · Apr 25, 2014

Me too! Those other hoarders are causing all the problems, LOL!

Bret4207 · Apr 25, 2014

(quoted from post at 15:53:05 04/23/14) This whole .22 shortage could be over in one day if the stores would require you to bring in you empty .22 shells to be reycled (brass you know) this would get rid of all the hoarders and bring things back to normal. All all the hoarders would be stuck with their huge supply of ammo. Then the prices would return to 1.89 to 2.50 for a box of 50.

Don't give the gov't any bright ideas.......... :roll:

Bret4207 · Apr 25, 2014

(quoted from post at 17:00:22 04/23/14) Remember the Sandy Hook shootings out east? Involved as reported, a .223 Bushmaster and some sort of 9mm pistol. Imediately, at least the .223 Bushmaster was widely reported to be an "assult" rifle, whatever that is, with immediate calls for a ban on at least .223 Bushmasters, and .223 (5.56mm) ammo. If you remember, as a matter of very public record, there was even a Congressional Bill launched by a California senator that named 300+ guns and certain "assult" ammo that needed to be outlawed, but the bill fell short in votes and died without ever making it to the House for Joint Resolution status. One of the "assult" ammos was .223 that is a common ammo beyond what are termed "assult" rifles. So...at the time, everyone began buying up .223 and the more potent 5.56, driving the prices of 50GR .223 to double and triple, per round, emptying the shelves nationwide. Because it became so expensive and unavailable, there was and maybe still is a desire for .22LR in "AR" style rifles (AR-15 versus AR-22), because when it comes to plinking (practicing), .22LR still is much cheaper. .22LR used to be .04/.05 cents per round a couple of years ago, lead and full metal jacket hollow point. Now, when you can get it, its about .09/.10 cents per round, lead, and .10/.12 cents per round hollow point full metal jacket.

That is what happened, a matter of very public record.

Mark

I think you're confusing a whole bunch of things Mark. There is no FMJ or FMJ HP 22 LR ammo made or sold commercially in the US that I'm aware of. There are some "plated" lead alloy rounds, but not jacketed. The cause for the dearth of 22LR is most probably caused by hoarding much more so than the relatively few people that have 22LR conversions for their AR's. And the shortage of ammo is in more than just 22LR, it's in many other calibers too. You can't find a lot of ammo, especially pistol ammo. Not at reasonable prices anyway. There are other reasons for the high prices too, like import bans on surplus or foreign ammo, the falling dollar, etc.

Sandy Hook wasn't even 2 years ago but the ammo shortage has been going on since 2011 or so.

mkirsch · Apr 25, 2014

It was "Gabby" Giffords getting shot that got the Feds making noise about making some new strict gun laws. That was when the PANIC started.

Ultimately the .22LR "shortage" is self-induced and self-perpetuating. When people see it they buy it whether they need it or not. The people that buy it all up have tens of thousands of rounds hoarded away that they will NEVER shoot.

Twenty years from now you'll start seeing just boxes and boxes of .22LR at estate sales. They won't be able to give it away!

J.Wondergem · Apr 25, 2014

Might want to check this out. It appears Winchester might have loaded some 22 long rifles with a double powder charge: www. winchester.com

W_B · Apr 25, 2014

If you think .22 is expensive, price out .25 auto! FIL gave me a little .25 to play with but can't find ammo at a price I'm willing to pay. They want 33 to about 58 cents a shot for it, too expensive for just plinking with such a small shell. This is down from the last time I checked on it, was starting at over 50 up to just under a buck a shot.

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