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What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded together

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bob12

10-24-2007 17:02:21

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What does the law say about two 22 foot semi trailers welded together to make a 44 foot flatbed trailer. I already bought the trailer and it has made numerous trips across the country loaded to max gvw 50000 no problems with welds no cracks etc. But what does the man in blue say? thank you

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davediehl@hotmail.com

10-24-2007 19:23:46

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to bob12, 10-24-2007 17:02:21

Under our state law, it doesn't take much to place a commercial vehicle out of service. Having a vehicle with consistant good welds and the installation of the assembled vehicle ID tags are a must. If you use a previous VIN from another unit, the trailer will not conform to BMV information. The officer check will make the original VIN invalid and you will need to submit paperwork for the assembled vehicle. I don't have a problem checking off on a home built rig, but it must be a professional piece of work. You should keep in mind that if something breaks, AND its a home built unit, the guy you hit will own your life and toys. As long as it is a safe unit and has the appearance of a safe unit, you should be ok. Brakes, tires, lights are all things that will be looked at upon your inspection. Or at least SHOULD BE.

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ohio

10-25-2007 17:16:18

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 10-24-2007 19:23:46

Wow! Are you AWS D1.1 certified? What are your engineering credentials? Do you even know the formulas for weld stitch patterns for adequately incorperating sections into stressed members?

I thought law enforcement officers were only trained in law enforcement, and Dot personel were trained in Transportation regulation. I didn't realize there was any structural fabrication training. I would think that if you and your colleagues held that kind of accreditation, you would seek high paying jobs in the private sector.

Sorry for the rant, and I realize you are probably thouroghly trained and competant with regard to the scope of your work, but If you are really willing to make judgement calls on the structural integrity of either commercially produced, or home built trailers, I'm sure you would be very popular with the product liability litigation industry.

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davediehl@hotmail.com

10-25-2007 20:28:23

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to ohio, 10-25-2007 17:16:18

I'm not, however our instructor is and does work in this county if you need one checked off. You will not see my signature on that slip of paper! Law enforcement officers are being cross trained and are able to complete DOT checks as well as common law duties. This allows them to suck up the grant money as well as overtime. There are not many officers I know that have a second job to make ends meet, so the pay must be fine with them. I also don't know of any who have been laid off, there must be job security in there too. I can't say I am displeased at all with what I do, but thats me. Anyway, I posted Dee's number in the forum about a month ago, she can check your assembled trailer off if you need a check done.

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ohio

10-26-2007 13:05:41

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 10-25-2007 20:28:23

You got my point, though, I'm sure . I'm sure those folks are very well trained when it comes to saftey regulations and vehicle code, but I seriously question their engineering and structural welding backrounds.

As for job security, it is a field that rakes in millions of dollars for the state, with little or no relation to the economic climate it is operating within, so that is definitly true. And I'm sure that a job with little stress as to productivity or job performance is certianly a plus to alot of people who would otherwise be forced to find employment in the generally demanding private sector.

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bob12

10-24-2007 18:25:06

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to bob12, 10-24-2007 17:02:21

My registration has it as a 44 foot trailer. Does that mean I am good to go?

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john in la

10-24-2007 19:37:26

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to bob12, 10-24-2007 18:25:06

If you have a registration that says the trailer is 44' and a new vin # or data plate has been installed on the trailer; Then I can only assume (and I sometimes get into trouble when I assume) that a inspection was done by the state police; or it was built by a reputable shop that does not require an inspection because they are certified.

If that is the case and you can pass a road side inspection; Yes you are good to go.

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john in la

10-24-2007 17:53:49

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to bob12, 10-24-2007 17:02:21

In my state the man in the blue suit would say that all home built trailers must be inspected by the state police; office of DOT.
This will also allow you to get new vin #'s because you will need them to get a tag.

I assume your tag now is using the vin # off 1 of the trailers; but the problem is that registration is good for a 22 ft trailer not a 44 ft trailer.

If your trailer was welded together by a reputable shop they should have taken care of the new registration for you or the owner at the time and you are good to go.

When I built a home made 5x8 trailer years ago; I first went to the DMV and they gave me a inspection form. I think it had a vin # on it already but am not sure. I had to take the trailer and the form to the state police office. A DOT officer looked out the window and said it looks good to me and signed off on the inspection. I asked; your not even going to check the lights?? His answer was... They work; Don't they. I said yes. He then sent a helper outside to stamp the vin # on the trailer.
I then took this form back to the DMV and was given a tag for the trailer.

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Hooligan

10-25-2007 09:11:36

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to john in la, 10-24-2007 17:53:49

Which is why Louisiana and Arkansas (tied for last) are the two most backward states there are in the Union.

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john in la

10-25-2007 17:52:58

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to Hooligan, 10-25-2007 09:11:36

I do not know why I am even replying to some dumb name calling comment like that but I just GOT TO KNOW..... ..... ....

Since your IP address say you are from the Cheltenham; England area. How would you know anything about the states.

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Haywood

10-25-2007 21:08:14

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to john in la, 10-25-2007 17:52:58

Weren't Louisiana and Arkansas Confederate States?

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Jeff-oh

11-08-2007 08:03:38

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Re: What does the law say about 2 semi trailers welded toge in reply to Haywood, 10-25-2007 21:08:14

Ya, as were, Virginia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Flordia, Mississippi, Alabama, and Texas.

What the point?

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