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Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles?

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ATLAS HAY

02-05-2008 10:27:51

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I am in the market for a One Ton Crew Cab and I am sorting through the BS. Dodge's seem overly expensice - Kinda like those green tractors. Sorry deere fans. Can you guys help. I want to tow 10,000 + on occasion. And pack the family up for trips.

I am looking at the F350's to save a little money.

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ericlb

02-19-2008 03:43:07

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

its hard to really say i have a '94 2/4 ton with over 200,000 on it, personal observaiton is that dodge acidently got it right when they teamed up with cummins, now if they would have just gone 1 better and put the allison tranny behind it... the truck is still great its been used as a work truck most of it life, but not just beat down to junk the seat is worn, and the tailgate latch quit, but as for the engine the only repairs in that time were a starter radiator and waterpump, the 94 12 valve doesnt have as much power as the 24 valve but the fuel economy is better and it seems to have less problems , ford and gm both make as good a truck as anybody, [personaly im not a fan of new trucks] i think they suffer some from their disasterous first attempts at pickup diesels back in the 80's dodge got it right- with someone elses engine.as to fuel economy mine is a 2wd, and gets 28 on the hiway, i got into a rant on a earlier post about this , so anybody that doesnt believe it can come drive this thing and see it themselves, its been checked over and over and over...

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mule logger

02-18-2008 18:41:37

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

dodge ford chevy? guess it is all what you want to do.. we have an 85 chevy 6.2 flat bed to haul hay. plug it in when it is cold and dont be in a hurry and it does its job at 218000 mile well.. a 95 6.5 service truck with 154000 that works day after day, both with great mileage. and for heavy pulling we traded our 7.3 for a 91 cummins and traded the junk 5 speed for a nv 4500 5 speed. it is at 235000 and 98 cummins 12 valve now at about 105000 all are very good trucks but with banks power on the 98 and rear axle from a 2000 chevy 3500hd our 32 ft steel stock trailor (9000LB) and usually 10-12000lb of cows is nothing..only limit is to what you can stop.and the exaust temp no company makes the perfect pickup for heavy pulling with maby the exception of the international cxt . cummins cost more b/c they are more reliable and have half the parts of a v8.

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Too Far Gone

02-18-2008 17:37:05

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

I own a 2000 powerstroke F 250 with rear air bag suspension.I looked at many before I bought and I like the powerstroke.Its not uncommon for them to 250000 miles or more and going strong.I bought mine with 130,000 miles on it.I always wondered about the Dodge hype myself.I have recently driven 2 friends trucks(Dodge's),and I was really not happy with their performance.One was a 1994,and the other a 2006 model.I drove the 06 model Dodge pulling a trailer that Ive pulled with my Ford.Now,The Cummins sounded good on a pull,but my Ford is better from a dead stop with a heavy load than my Buddies Dodge.So,That being said, Im glad I bought the Ford.

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MIKE FRENCH

02-18-2008 15:45:47

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

My 92 3500 dodge dually had 500K on it when I traded, just couldnt resist the deal, had 5 speed in it, had to rebuild it often other than that no problems. I finally started puting sinthetic 80-90 in the trans instead of that high price crap and had lots better luck and less bearing trouble.

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kossuth

02-10-2008 16:39:42

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to Kim P, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

Jason1(Pa.) said: (quoted from post at 11:44:42 02/10/08) The reason why I think the Dodges are more is because of the "cummins" name on it. Alot of people relate that name to the BIG rigs and it makes them feel good about them self driving down the road in one with that badge on the side. Billy Big rigger want to be. If they had a Briggs&Straton emblem on that truck no one would buy it even if it was a good engine. Plus even at that price its still cheaper then a new truck

That is true to some extent, but the cummins where the first to get the pickup diesels right... I remember back as a kid (we had a 89 dodge with the cummins in it) run right past a friend of ours going up a hill with similar loads driving a brand new 1 ton ford with the 7.3 in it. I forget how much he paid for that truck back in 93 but he was mad as get out. We topped the hill at about 35-40 mph and he had his truck hunkered down to 10 mph getting up that hill. Its no secret that many have run those trucks 350+k miles and basically the motor was still kicking but the body rotted off it. Now, the newer motors have some issues IE lift pump dying thus killing the VP44 on the 98-02 24 valve motors but they are good motors too and have proven themselves out on the road as long as you can address the lift pump and the VP44 issues. The 5.9 is one of the best motors that ever sat between the frame rails of a Dodge truck or any fullsize pickup for that matter and people value that. Not saying that the Powerstroke is a bad motor, but it didn't have the same longevity in similar configurations as did the Cummins plus people think back to the old non turbo 7.3's and have avoided them due to the reputation of having less than desirable power. With that said you can see why people also avoided the GM diesels that much more due to the reputation they had. The 6.2 was just as gutless as they come, and the 6.5 wasn't that popular when it came out due to the reputation of the 6.2. Even though the 6.5 in reality wasn't all that bad of a motor.

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Jason1(Pa.)

02-10-2008 10:44:42

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

The reason why I think the Dodges are more is because of the "cummins" name on it. Alot of people relate that name to the BIG rigs and it makes them feel good about them self driving down the road in one with that badge on the side. Billy Big rigger want to be. If they had a Briggs&Straton emblem on that truck no one would buy it even if it was a good engine. Plus even at that price its still cheaper then a new truck

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J heitkemper

02-18-2008 19:17:49

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to Jason1(Pa.), 02-10-2008 10:44:42

Nope ,, Cummins are BEST, dollar for dollar ,mile after mile ,And they get the best fuel economy .. Got one in the drive with 285 k on Him , my brothers drive Fords ,Good shop trucks ,, Duramax Diesel really is a power horse , But as time wears on they too like to hang out in the shop . The stock Cummins will not outrunthe Ford or Chevy .But I know without a doubt , that My Cummins is the least likely to have problems that require REAL $$. . ALL THESE DIESEL ENGINES WILL OUTLAST THE BODY AND DRIVE LINE , be it Dodge ,Ford or Gm....

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George G

02-08-2008 06:21:30

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

I did a little looking around on the internet. Did'nt find too many Dodge Diesel's with over 130000 miles on them. The ones I saw with over 200000 miles on them. They were asking between $3-6000 for them. Do to the small number of them that I found with that kind of mileage on them. I'm thinking, at that point. They are pretty much ready for the scrap yard.

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john_bud

02-05-2008 20:11:41

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

The 7.3 ford diesel will last and is a good motor. But your original Q was about the dodge $$. As you are finding, the Fords are cheaper than the dodges.

On the spark plugs, I checked and they must have all shot out of the diesels in my tractors (all three!). But they still seems to run ok - who knew?

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TWJanak

02-05-2008 19:58:41

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

Shooting out spark plugs was only for Ford's modular gas engines.

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Dennis Benson

02-06-2008 06:42:06

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to TWJanak, 02-05-2008 19:58:41

Thanks for the usefull information.

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Davis SC

02-05-2008 19:41:28

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

Glad to hear that... My 2001 Ext cab Cummins 6 speed 3500 4X4 only has 56K miles.. I guess it was a good investment,..,

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andrew youngman

02-05-2008 19:54:21

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to Davis SC, 02-05-2008 19:41:28

must have been over 20 grand at that rate.... Was it? Don't be shy with the tractor boys now.

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Dennis Benson

02-05-2008 16:46:33

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

I don't know which years, but Fords with aluminum heads can shoot spark plugs out. They don't have a lot of thread for the spark plugs.

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Marlowe

02-05-2008 18:41:47

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to Dennis Benson, 02-05-2008 16:46:33

is that new for the 2009 Fords spark plugs in a diesel?? just askin

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andrew youngman

02-05-2008 17:34:18

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to Dennis Benson, 02-05-2008 16:46:33

I hate that. It happened on my Diesel tractor once.

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marlowe

02-05-2008 14:59:54

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

because they are just getting broken in and not many Fords or Chev's will make it the far and if it's a auto and the shift piston in the trans. has been changed it will run 250k more

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ATLAS HAY

02-05-2008 14:41:53

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

Steer me in the right direction here though. I would have to purchase a 2003+ to get the crew cab + pay the "dodge premium". Won't a 7.3 Liter Ford run out for 300K miles?

I have seen quite a few over 200K, and some in the 220's and 230's. They seem to be pretty nice.

I do like the 3500 5speed dodge, but it is a extended cab in the years I like. It wouldn't be sensible for me to spend 15K to tow with that and not have a vehicle that is usable for the family.

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Mike 50

02-05-2008 18:40:08

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Why Dodge - look for a F350 with a 7.3 in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 14:41:53

The 7.3 desiel is a excellent engine. It was made by IH for Ford. They can well exceed 300K, and just like that ever ready bunny they Keep on Going and Going. It will stand up to the Chevys and Dodges anytime anyday anywhere. That is one tough truck to beat and they pull great.

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john_bud

02-05-2008 11:26:39

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

Why? because they are worth it. And people are lined up to pay that much.

at 250k miles they are at 2/3 or even 1/2 of the engine life. If an auto trans they are about to croak, but a manual trans will still be ok. Probably needs a clutch.

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dda

02-05-2008 11:21:55

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to ATLAS HAY, 02-05-2008 10:27:51

Cummins! Last Forever

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dieselpaul

02-06-2008 22:03:49

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to dda, 02-05-2008 11:21:55

i think the first electronic cummins had a lot of pump problems--started to remind me of gm 6.5-standyne with pusher pump--module failures. i guess common-rail system is better? i guess i'm old-fashioned, i'd like a 5.9 with a pt system--just can't find the right cam/head-ha

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trailbossusa

03-09-2008 21:07:29

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to dieselpaul, 02-06-2008 22:03:49

....for parts. The engine is the only thing that's any good. They're like driving a worn out hay wagon by the time they hit 50k. Duramax's are designed by the largest diesel manufacurer in the world. Cummins isn't even close. You won't find a GM of the same year selling as cheap as a Dodge.

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D-C-741

03-09-2008 21:57:50

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to trailbossusa, 03-09-2008 21:07:29

GM JUST LIKES TO SELL TOYOTA JUNK = GENERAL SCRAP.I'll Take A DODGE ANY DAY !!! AND FOR THE CUMMINS AT LEAST THEY ARE MADE IN THE USA

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trailbossusa

03-09-2008 22:15:22

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Re: Why do Dodge Diesel's cost 14K$ + with 250K+miles? in reply to D-C-741, 03-09-2008 21:57:50

:) The Duramax is built in Ohio, USA. As stated before, the Cummins is a good engine. The rest of the truck is the problem. The older Cummins is unbearable to ride in or be within 2 miles of the truck for the noise. Makes no difference how good any engine is, if what they hook it up to isn"t. And yes, NASCAR has flushed themselves down the Toyota.

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