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Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder

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Oilfield welder

11-21-2004 20:53:23
64.250.219.97



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I have this welder on my truck and it is a great machine. A fellow welder told me I had an antique that is worth some money. I was wondering if this is true? I am wanting to upgrade to a lighter welder, thinking about selling it but was wondering what to price it at. Any ideas???




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driftin_tumblweed

10-18-2005 22:57:44
64.13.48.178



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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to Oilfield welder, 11-21-2004 20:53:23  
In response to this, if any of you other so called pipey's had even been around, the aluminum face sa 200's were the early one... from 45 to 61. The black face first showed up in 60, to 62, then the red-ies came out in late 62 and ran until 73. the blacks then came back out on the sa 200's, 250's and sae 400 biguns..... then lincoln went to the light aluminum with light grey lincoln color face plates up until 97. all are good machines, but if possible try to stay away from the 81 thru 85 machines... alot of them had copper and aluminum windings in them and they tend to be tempermental, and arent as rebuildable as the full copper models.... I have four of the sa200's and 1 SA 300 classic II diesel... all are good machines. the SA 200's are a '48, a 67, a 72, and a 92... the sa 300 classic is a 90. and as far as leaking oil, all of them do that. if it is burning oil, lap the vavles, you can get all parts from the continental engines web page..... if it is a pre 69 model it will have a continental "L head" F-162, with a FM Magneto... most of these parts can be found at a Massey Fergusson Dealer, as they used the same engines in the MF 35, and MF 77 model tractors. If the model is a post 69 model it will haVE A CONTINENTAL F-163 L SERIES, WHICH IS BASICALL the same, yet it uses a high mount starter , and it uses a breaKERLESS DISTRIBUTOR.... clean the motor and faceplate, get the model #, class #, and serial number and contact B & R welding in NY. they are on ebay... they will have almost evey part for the sa 200's, no matter what year. also check with WELDMART.com in dallas tx. they also have most parts, and a few upgrades.... hope this will help ya out...... Old pipefitters never die... their rods just get shorter and the gaps get wider.... be seein ya Tre'

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pl747

08-20-2005 15:49:29
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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to Oilfield welder, 11-21-2004 20:53:23  
The red face refers to some SA 200 pipeliners that had a red face plate on it instead of the aluminum colored one under the rheostat and heat range switch. They had round generator laminations and are prefered by a lot of welders for pipeline work. Them and the short hooded ones are the ones they want. The short hooded welders had the round generator laminations too.



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jim howard jr

10-11-2006 10:03:45
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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to pl747, 08-20-2005 15:49:29  
I have a 59 sa 200 between shorthood and redface models does she have the rounded laminaters do you think



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MIKE HERNDON MIAMI FLA

12-13-2004 16:11:31
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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to Oilfield welder, 11-21-2004 20:53:23  
NEVER HERD OF A RED FACE SA 200 SOMEBODY FOUND SOME SPRAY PAINT.



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mike mcgee

01-25-2008 15:35:28
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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to MIKE HERNDON MIAMI FLA, 12-13-2004 16:11:31  
not seen to many lincoln welding machines i suspect.



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doug stockman

11-23-2004 03:22:47
67.139.200.85



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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to Oilfield welder, 11-21-2004 20:53:23  
Last year I bought an SA200 on a 2-wheeled trailer along with 50 ft leads and rod holder. I paid $600. It is in great shape and works well.

Doug Stockman
Penfield, NY



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T_Bone

11-22-2004 11:48:40
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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to Oilfield welder, 11-21-2004 20:53:23  
Hi OW,

I don't ever remember seeing a red SA200. Are you sure it hasn't been repainted? Can you see any grey color under the red on a scratch area?

If your SA200 is a typical copper wound generator, you will not like the arc stability of any of the newer machines unless you go with a new pipeliner as there still CU wound. I have no idea if the new CU model still has the great arc stability tho. I would sure try one out before I made the purchase.

If you have the diesel engine option then you should be able to get about $2k more than a gasser model in your area.

T_Bone

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Oilfield welder

11-22-2004 13:03:41
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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to T_Bone, 11-22-2004 11:48:40  
The body of the machine is gray but the face where the controls are is red. I was told it was a pipeliner welder. It says Shield Arc SA 200 DC welder on the face. A buddy of mine wants to trade his new Miller for my machine. I don"t know if the are any better. I like my machine but it is old. A 1964 model. and parts are hard to find. Thanks



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jason whitaker

12-14-2004 08:42:41
205.204.242.23



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  Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to Oilfield welder, 11-22-2004 13:03:41  
Yes, I was wondering if anyone could help me identify my welder.It is an older lincoln SA200 with a flathead fourcylinder engine. The engine is a continentail engine. I dont seem to find any numbers on the engine that help me to identify what horsepower the engine is and what year it was in production. A number stamped on the block is J66. I am wanting to rebuild this engine because it uses some oil. If anyone could help me let me know. THanks

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lincolnbobekin

06-22-2007 02:24:42
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 Re: Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to jason whitaker, 12-14-2004 08:42:41  
It will be a f162 or f163 continental engine
they both use the same kit



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Dee

05-31-2005 14:26:56
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 Re: Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to jason whitaker , 12-14-2004 08:42:41  
As finding out more bout your sa200 this is a great site tells all http://www.lincolnelectric.com/knowledge/articles/content/layman.asp



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T_Bone

11-23-2004 10:59:25
4.240.132.25



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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to Oilfield welder, 11-22-2004 13:03:41  
Hi OW,

I just can't help you as the last new machine I used was 12yrs ago when I retired. The Miller Big Blue wasn't bad but still couldn't hold a candle to a pipeliner but I talking old machines that that don't count.

Post back here on the red face if you ever find out anything as I never seen a red face.

Lincoln's website has a ton of online literature if you want to spend a few days reading.

T_Bone

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John *.?-!.* cub owner

11-22-2004 06:46:32
66.112.43.103



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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to Oilfield welder, 11-21-2004 20:53:23  
I don't know about it's value, but most Lincoln manuals are available on line at www.lincolnelectric.com



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mike brown

11-24-2004 18:08:06
208.1.215.133



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 Re: Red Face Lincoln SA200 Welder in reply to John *.?-!.* cub owner, 11-22-2004 06:46:32  
Those old welders were built better than a lot of new ones imo. A lighter welder is going to have aluminum windings where yours has copper. I bought a sixties vintage Miller Gold Star this summer that works great but it is big. I paid $700. To get a comparable new machine would have cost a several times that much.



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