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Troy

09-17-2001 18:37:47




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Who grinds a good cam thats not going to rip you off? Looking to get one ground for a 153 buda, rules let me run 10% over at 1980 rpms. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks




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jody`

09-30-2001 16:59:49




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 Re: cam grinding in reply to Troy, 09-17-2001 18:37:47  
robert socks in south carolina does cam grinding for tractor pullers. he has lots of experince and has a good rep. done one for me im not winning yet but im a lot closer than i was his #843-774-4324. his price was very reasonable.



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Tom

09-18-2001 18:39:00




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 Re: cam grinding in reply to Troy, 09-17-2001 18:37:47  
Troy: Call Scott at Berry Camshaft Serv. in Lester Prarie, Minnesota He probably has done more pulling cams than most others. His # 320-395-2241



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Dick L

09-18-2001 07:49:49




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 Re: cam grinding in reply to Troy, 09-17-2001 18:37:47  
Try Crane Cams in FL. Not cheap but not real expencive eather, and they won't rip you off. (904) 252-1151 Tell what you want the engine to do ( high RPM's - low RPM's high torque ) and they will get it done. I think they have a web site.



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Goldsburg

09-18-2001 15:52:30




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 Re: Re: cam grinding in reply to Dick L, 09-18-2001 07:49:49  
Troy -

There are other and BETTER sources for camshafts for antique pulling tractors out there! Dick L. unfortunately is mistaken: Crane (and others like them: Lunati, Crower,etc.) are over priced and do not have the knowledge base NOR the desire to develope "good" camshaft grinds for tractors because the volume of business just is not there for them. You should seek out others who pull the same type of tractor as you (but live very far away so as not to be direct competition). These are the people who are going to be the absolute authorities on your particular tractor. As a last resort talk to as many tractor pullers as you can, somebody will talk! I have never dealt with your brand of engine (Buda) so I do not have specific recommendations. But that doesn't mean that I couldn't develope a grind for your engine!

Email me and I can either develope a grind or give you the name of a Buda man!

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Goldsburg
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Dick L --WELL

09-20-2001 13:21:24




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 Re: Re: Re: cam grinding in reply to Goldsburg, 09-18-2001 15:52:30  
I may be unfortunate and I may be mistaken, but make no mistake I am happy with the cost and performance of the cam I had Crane grind for me.
Crane has computer technology second to none. They used the engine specs along with the RPM's I wanted to run, to computer run the engine the way it is built to get the highest HP grind. They even called me back to make sure of the bore and stroke before grinding the cam.
AS unfortunate and mistaken I am, all of my cams will still go to Crane.

I don't sell for Crane, just a satisfied customer.

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Goldsburg

09-25-2001 10:35:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: cam grinding in reply to Dick L --WELL, 09-20-2001 13:21:24  
Dick

Have you ever had another camshaft (other than stock and your Crane cam) in your engine? I understand your fascination in their "computer technology", but the facts of the situation are that the output of that computer are only as good as the information that goes into that computer. Unless you provided them with a lengthy detailed list of specifications for your engine, including head flow numbers from a flow bench, then Crane or anybody else for that matter will HAVE to make assumptions about your engine. The computer software that you speak of is available "off the shelf" and is not something that only Crane has. Again, just because they have a computer program doesn't necessarily mean that you got the best cam. The assumptions that are made can result in some hellacious errors.

Can you tell me what your intake and exhaust port flow coefficients are? That is ONE critical piece of information that is needed to properly spec a camshaft! If they did not ask you for this or your flow bench data, then wild assumptions have been made about your engine that therefore affect your cam! Even if they do happen to get the absolute "best" cam specs, they then have to try to match that up to their existing master lobes. This is another area of compromise (potential error). I guarantee you that they are not going to grind a new master just for your camshaft. That is unless you can guarantee them that you would have them grind 200 or 300 of them!

Until you know more about the process, YOU should not make statements like "...to get the highest HP grind." I speak from many antique tractor engine building experiences, not just one!

You are certainly more than welcome to have Crane, Lunati, or Crower grind you a cam, but you have no right to cry when you get beat....

P.S. I have got a computer, too! Why don't you believe what I am telling you religiously also?

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Goldsburg
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