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Has anyone ever heard of a tractor brand called LO

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Allan Lance

12-22-2004 16:10:25




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hey
My uncle has an old tractor that has the name Long written along the side of the hood. It appears that it is constructed of a Cockshutt 30 rear end, a Farmall frame and sheet metal and a Massey Harris engine. I'm wondering if this is a homemade tractor or if this tractor was actually produced commercially? It's on pneumatic tires and it has a narrow front end as well. I've never seen it run so I don't know if it has live p.t.o. and it also doesn't have 3 point hitch. If anyone has information it would help a great deal. Thanks in advance
Allan

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dmw

12-22-2004 19:17:10




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 Re: Has anyone ever heard of a tractor brand calle in reply to Allan Lance, 12-22-2004 16:10:25  
Yes and the early one were made in N.C., tarboro i believe.



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Jeb2N

12-29-2004 03:50:47




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 Re: Has anyone ever heard of a tractor brand calle in reply to dmw, 12-22-2004 19:17:10  
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Hey there.

I work at long, and just got done restoring 2 of these tractors. I also know brenda very well and we have spoken on several occaisions. What these fellows have told you is correct. ALL of the Longs were built in Tarboro, NC starting in Nov 1948 and continuing on through sometime in 1949. The serial number is weakly hand stamped in the flywheel housing on the right-hand side and is more of a code than a serial number. For example, we have one that is #481120 or 48-11-20 meaning 19"48", 11th month, 20th tractor built. We also have #4 which is the oldest known to still exist. Only about 400 of these were ever made although an exact number is not known.

You should know that there were two different styles of these tractors, basically a "long frame" and a "short frame" The long frame has a single C-channel that uses 6 bolts front and rear to attach to the flywheel housing and steering bolster. The "short frame" had 4 bolts in the front and a 3 bolt or so flange on the back. If you need information, we actually had some reproductions made of the original owners manuals, advertising literature, and early style decals for the hood (later style decals were different). We have all of these in our parts department. Click on the link below and you should be able to get in touch with a local dealer who can order it for you or call our parts department directly and order them.

I have also unhidden my email address so you can click on my name and email me if you have any questions. Good luck!

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Engel kupers

02-27-2005 16:11:51




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 Re: Has anyone ever heard of a tractor brand calle in reply to Jeb2N, 12-29-2004 03:50:47  
we just finished restoring a long model "a" serial# 297 runs good and looks excellent were from canada (alberta).



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Larry from MD

12-22-2004 16:17:11




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 Re: Has anyone ever heard of a tractor brand calle in reply to Allan Lance, 12-22-2004 16:10:25  
Yes we know all about them.Its a LONG model A.There are several old posts if you search for them.Brenda has one on the easternshore.



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Allan Lnace

12-22-2004 17:53:19




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 Re: Has anyone ever heard of a tractor brand calle in reply to Larry from MD, 12-22-2004 16:17:11  
hey
So is it true that these tractors were constructed from various components contracted out from different more advanced tractor manfacturer's such as Cockshutt for the rear end, amd International Harvester for the frame and sheet metal?
Thanks in advance
Allan



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J.Schwiebert

12-22-2004 18:56:23




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 Re: Has anyone ever heard of a tractor brand calle in reply to Allan Lnace, 12-22-2004 17:53:19  
Timken made that rear end. Remember the first 30 Cockshutts were made in the fall of 1946 and they were not to the point yet they had there own final drive ready. Sheppard diesels also used this rear end as did a few others. I think they (Timken) also made the early 55 John Deere combine transmissions. Continetal was very good at selling those F model engines. One thing about that , it makes parts easy to find today. Questions?

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Jeb2N

12-29-2004 05:00:19




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 Re: Has anyone ever heard of a tractor brand calle in reply to J.Schwiebert, 12-22-2004 18:56:23  
J.Schwiebert is right. This was essentially a "component tractor", just like they're made today. Timken supplied the rear end, wheels, center discs, etc. I'm not sure about the front steering bolster. Continental made the f-162 engine which is the same used on the Massey-Harris 101Jr. Rear is the same as the Cockshutt 30 or Co-Op E3 and select other lesser-known tractors. The seat is the same monroe seat used on the Farmalls. I think the fuel tank may be a modified farmall tank, but i'm not sure about the mounting brackets.

Long basically just filled in the blanks on the rest of the parts using what was commonly available (C-channel frame, simple sheet metal hydraulic reservoir, burned out steel plates for example). It's a really neat tractor but the throttle is VERY touchy and i'm not sure why.

Jeb

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