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Restricted orfice at the oil filter?

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#1wingnut

04-11-2006 13:49:37




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I changed the oil the other day on my 44 2n and found no oil in my oil filter. I pulled the oil filter can and the IN line has a restriced orfice type fitting that was plugged. I started it with the can off and its pumping oil great. It shot oil cross the shop. do I need this fitting or can I can it? why restrict the oil flow?

Dan




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chris cogburn

04-13-2006 12:55:30




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 Re: Restricted orfice at the oil filter? in reply to #1wingnut, 04-11-2006 13:49:37  
This thread is interesting, and makes me anxious to get out there and change the oil. Maybe even drop the pan and clean it out really well; something tells me there's a lot of gunk built up down there.

Which begs another question, oil pan-wise: is there a finned aluminum aftermarket pan available? It would help cool the oil and be less likely to warp than a stamped pan. And would look WAY cool...

Happy Tractoring!

c.

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jinxpress

04-12-2006 05:51:56




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 Re: Restricted orfice at the oil filter? in reply to #1wingnut, 04-11-2006 13:49:37  
When I first got my ole 1942 9N the governor was bad and had to replace it. I found that nothing "oil" was coming from the steel line to the governor with the engine running. I had already changed the oil and filter. I pulled the filter can and found that there are two (2) small holes in the stand pipe within the filter housing, both were plugged. I had to use a dental pick to get the hard junk out. The filter really wasn't doing anything with theses holes plugged, wouldn't let the oil return to the crankcase via the governor. Mine didn't have any other restrictions in the fittings.

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#1wingnut

04-11-2006 14:26:35




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 Re: Restricted orfice at the oil filter? in reply to #1wingnut, 04-11-2006 13:49:37  
WOW 10%..... why filter it at all? I suspect This will be plugged again in no time.
The can Its self is tapped for a 1/4" thread
this brass fitting With restricted orfice threads into the can. the hole on the fitting is aprox 1/32"
I'll try and post up a pic.
Thanks for the quick reply, I guess I leave it on



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Bob

04-11-2006 14:33:57




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 Re: Restricted orfice at the oil filter? in reply to #1wingnut, 04-11-2006 14:26:35  
The filters actually do a pretty good job. Even though only a percentage of the oil is passing through the filter at any given time, obviously over time, all the oil gets filtered, sooner or later.

The HOT thing with the Dodge/Cummins, Duramax, and Powerstroke owners these days is to ADD an aftermarket bypass filter to keep the fine particulates from building up in the diesels' oil.

Kinda funny how this old technology is "new" again!

The link below is to an ad for one such system:

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Bob

04-11-2006 14:03:10




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 Re: Restricted orfice at the oil filter? in reply to #1wingnut, 04-11-2006 13:49:37  
The oil filter system is a "bypass type". The restrictor controls how much oil passes through the filter, and gets dumped back into the crankcase, either directly, or through the governor, depending upon the tractor's age.

It seems to me the average is reputed to be about 10% of the oil pump's output that flows through the filter.

(On modern units, ALL the oil pump flow is supposed to pass through the filter, before entering the various oil galleries.)

With this BYPASS SYSTEM, with NO restriction, too much of the oil pump's output would pass through the filter, and get "wasted" back to the crankcase, and oil pressure would likely be way too low, possibly to the point the bearings would be "starved" for oil.

You say the restriction is in the brass fitting?

There has been some discussion here before as to whether the restricion is an oriface in the filter can, or in one of the fittings. Does your's have a tiny hole in the "can", where the oil enters? Likely, there is a tiny hole near the top of the filter cannister's ollow center tube that restricts the oil LEAVING the filter.

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