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Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
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2N relay battery to starter

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DonIL

01-18-2005 04:55:55
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Ok, I gotta plead total ignorance.

What is the thing called to which my negative battery cable connects, and on the other side of it, a cable runs to the starter? I know there wasn't a voltage regulator per se on this model, but none of the pics in the I&T manual look like this thing. It's mounted under the battery on the left side. It looks like some sort of relay, about 1.25-1.5 inches square.

I think it's fried. My battery is fine, but it was crankin' really slow. I kept trying to get 'er started, and smelled burning vinyl. Looked down and the cable from this thingie to the starter was red hot at the connection to this unnamed device - glowing hot. It melted the insulation. The cable is useless - and it needed replacing anyhow. I cannot loosen the rusted, heat-fused nut to remove the piece of the old cable attached to it. plus, i think the thing is shot anyway - everything looks ready to crumble apart. It's a wonder the thing ever started upon close inspection.

But the problem is - what IS this thing? I can't find anything like it in the manual or in any parts catalogue.

Thanks in advance !

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don b

01-18-2005 09:14:02
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to DonIL, 01-18-2005 04:55:55  
If you will click on my name and send me an email, I'll send you a pic of what your electrical system should look like. don b



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Dell (WA)

01-18-2005 06:41:23
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to DonIL, 01-18-2005 04:55:55  
Don.........that 2-terminal roundcan device is (are you ready for this?) a mechanical STARTER SWITCH. p/n 9N-11450-B. It is operated by a tranny neutral safety interlock jiggle stick scheme.

Cutout yer BAD BATTERY CABLES and trash everything. Replace with NEW HEAVY DUTY thick as yer thumb one-ought (1/0) battery cables..........Dell



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DonIL

01-18-2005 06:53:29
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to Dell (WA), 01-18-2005 06:41:23  
Thanks, Dell. I wondered if that's what belongs there, but why in the heck doesn't the thing on mine look anything like the ones in the parts catalogues? It ain't even round! I definitely planned on getting the thick cables anyhow, a job I put off way too long simply because it worked before...my dilatory conduct has not paid off! Lesson learned.



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don b

01-18-2005 09:18:58
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to DonIL, 01-18-2005 06:53:29  
Well, it does show how it looks like in some parts books but not the 39-53 MPC.See above post for pic and if anyone else needs the pic,email me. don b



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Dell (WA)

01-18-2005 08:37:23
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to DonIL, 01-18-2005 06:53:29  
Don..........who knows what "emergency" farmerized repair was performed on your tractor by the previous owner. Real 2-terminal roundcan N-Starter switches are not that difficult to gitt from certain N-Parts speciality houses, including amazingly enuff Ford/New Holland. I do like that N-Specialist in Shelby NC, knows what he is talking about..........Dell



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don b

01-18-2005 07:18:42
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to DonIL, 01-18-2005 06:53:29  
If you have the 39-53 MPC, look on page147.If your serial number is below 12500,the swx. is supposed to be located in the dash[left side]and part number is 9n11450A.Any questions, email me. don b



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Switch...John,PA

01-18-2005 05:22:10
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to DonIL, 01-18-2005 04:55:55  
Your starter is engaged by pressing down on the starter button located there by the gear shift. When you push down on the button, a rod is pushed to that "starter switch" that you describe. Good possibility that the starter button stayed engaged, or the switch itself stayed engaged. Remove that "switch" from the steering column and check it out. Will look like the old style head light dimmer on the older cars. Hope this helps. John,PA

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DonIL

01-18-2005 05:46:38
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to Switch...John,PA, 01-18-2005 05:22:10  
Yes it's still a 6-volt. At some point in the distant past, the old "headlight dimmer" switch on the floor was bypassed and a new button was mounted on the left side of the steering column just under the steering wheel.



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souNdguy

01-18-2005 07:35:28
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to DonIL, 01-18-2005 05:46:38  

Well.. If your OEM thumb/jigglestick interlocked trany mounted starter switch was bypassed... why do you still have your battery wireing going to it? Post some more info. Could you now have a real solenoid style relay?

Here's a pic from the archives. no super clear.. but this is the mechanical switch we are talking about that is activated by the big thumb switch on the tranny cover. If your thumb switch is bypassed and you are using some other method to start the tractor.. we need those details.

Soundguy

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TIMW(PA)

01-18-2005 08:45:13
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to souNdguy, 01-18-2005 07:35:28  

Here is the closest pic I could find in the ole collection. dint know if this is any clearer...Tim



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01-18-2005 05:27:46
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 Re: 2N relay battery to starter in reply to Switch...John,PA, 01-18-2005 05:22:10  
I am assuming that the tractor is still 6 volt.



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