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Ford engine to air compressor conversion

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CY (OHTN)

03-31-2000 06:04:15
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Would any one have any info, on converting a four cyl, Ford engine to a two cylinder engine and two cyl, air compressor. Have seen one in an old auto museum in Tn. I think but don't know for sure it was an aftermarket thing. Though possibly a home brew. I have an 8N engine that I would like to convert and put the 8N sheet metal and front running gear back on and make a trailer out of it. Thank you in advance for any info. Cranky Yanky

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JGTN

03-31-2000 14:03:28
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 Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 06:04:15  
Gordon Smith was the father of a high school friend of mine named Gilbert Smith. Gordon started in the 30's Using Model A front ends (from cowling forward) and using the Model A engine converted to two-cylinders for compressor.
Later, he used Chrysler 6-cylinder engines for more power. When Gordon died, Gilbert inherited the company. The last time I spoke with Gilbert, he had sold the company (I'm not sure to who) and retired. Gilbert still lives in Bowling Green (I think).

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dave

03-31-2000 13:36:32
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 Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 06:04:15  
In the early 1980's I saw and add in a car magazine to do the same thing with a VW engine. Which had two seperate banks of cylinders and is air cooled!

- Dave



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Try this URL

03-31-2000 08:44:41
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 Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 06:04:15  
http://www.horseless.com/wwwboard/messages/119.html

Try this URL. Gordon-Smith used to be in Bowling Green, KY. I had one of the Model A Ford versions in the 60's. I don't know about 'em now. In the 80's I saw a slick kit from them, that put a spl head on one side of a 302 Ford V-8.

Good luck. IHank



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CY (OHTN)

03-31-2000 10:32:57
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 Re: Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to Try this URL, 03-31-2000 08:44:41  
Hank: I can't seem to get that url to work. Any sugestions ?



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Ken Michetti

04-27-2001 04:59:11
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 Re: Re: Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 10:32:57  
I would like to find plans that guide in the conversion of a Ford v8 engine to a compressor. Also I would like to communicate with the person working on the Jeep compressor.



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Try Altavista or Dogpile

03-31-2000 10:46:57
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 Re: Re: Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 10:32:57  
Cy- Try one of the search engines. I got that URL at around the 20th find in Altavista. Use Gordon+Smith as the search word. Like I said, last I knew & saw of Gordon-Smith was in the 80's, as a kit for the small block Ford V-8 engine. Good luck, IHank



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jamesc

03-31-2000 08:31:53
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 Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 06:04:15  
You may be able to get many $$ for that 8n engine as is then buy you a real compresor.



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CY (OHTN)

03-31-2000 10:16:23
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 Re: Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to jamesc, 03-31-2000 08:31:53  
Your probely right but thats not what i want to do



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tlak

04-03-2000 16:53:11
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 Re: Re: Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 10:16:23  
I saw an N trailer mounted(eng only) with all the tin to run an air compressor/etc. Looked pretty neat. Dont remember where.



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tlak

03-31-2000 06:18:25
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 Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 06:04:15  
Interesting concept. Run two cylinders that balance each other and and two into one way valves to built up pressure without it going back into the engine. There was a kit a long time ago that you got a air hose and a spark plug adapter and you could pull one plug to like air up you tire. A couple compression gages with screw in fittings might be the way to get it from the cylinder into an adaptable rubber hose.

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Lou(NE)

03-31-2000 23:59:56
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 Re: Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to tlak, 03-31-2000 06:18:25  
Grandpa had the plug adapter and hose arrangment for his 8N. If I recall correctly (being about 10 yrs. old at the time) the brand name for this gadget was Tract-Air.

Lou(NE)



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Nolan

03-31-2000 06:16:10
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 Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to CY (OHTN), 03-31-2000 06:04:15  
The company you want to talk to is called Smith (real original). They make air compressor conversions for v-8 Ford engines. We've had them in at the shop I used to work at, and the units work quite well. They use a different head on the one bank of cylinders.

As for using an N engine, that would be more problematic. The firing order precludes simply blanking off either end of the engine. At least if you want the engine to run smoothy. You'd need to blank off either the inner two or outer two sets of cylinders.

You could achieve at least a moderate result replacing the spark plug with a check valve and piping it to the air tank. This assumes clean and unrestricted air available to the intake for the compressor cylinders. You obviously don't want gasoline mixtures here!

You could greatly improve the results by removing the lifters from the valves of the compressor cylinders. Leave the exhaust valve and spring in place, sealing it off. Replace the intake valve with a very weak spring that the vacuum could draw open. This would get you compressed air on each rotation of the crankshaft, as opposed to the every other rotation the above method would yield.

It's all doable, but of questionable worth. You would probably better serve yourself by either using a rotary screw type compressor mounted onto the complete engine, or using a compact engine and compressor unit.

Using the N engine complete on a trailer would allow you to mount up various components to it, like a compressor, welder, generator, pump, etc. Especially if you work carefully with a belt or chain drive.

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Marshall Rimland

12-04-2000 19:05:46
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 Re: Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to Nolan, 03-31-2000 06:16:10  
AN ENGINE DIVIDED

I recently bought this Jeep L-134 4 cyl engine/ air compressor I'm looking for any info or links
in it's regard.

Please help if you can.

Marshall

The old "Air Bag" is snug and warm in my basement after being alone and
neglected
for too many years. After blowing away the dirt, dust and crud, he
still looks dirty.
Well ya hafta loveum anyway.

His name tag reads: Hesse Hornet Hess Corporation Division Hess Carriage Co. Kansas City MO-----Dover NJ

Engine plate reads: Kaiser Jeep Corp. Jeep Industrial Engine Model CJ 3A Engine Assembly # 913102 Serial # R3J-17777 4B

Chassis plate reads: Hesse Hornet Model "H" Serial # 9 1707 5 Idle speed 850 RPM Pumping speed 2200 RPM

I'm hoping at least one of you can make more sense out of the above,
than I can.
After doing a mild web search, I found very little. Apparently there is
still a Hesse
Corporation in Kansas City MO.

He has a heavier fly wheel to make up for having to fire on just two
cylinders and
his idle speed is increased from 600 to 850 RPM.

His head is cast with the words: Hesse Carriage Co. and the head is the
feature that sets him apart from the run of the mill L-134 (see poor
diagram attached).

Cylinders 1&4 fire engine.Cylinders 2&3 are used to compress air.

Dimensions: W-20.5" L-31" H-32" WT-heavy

His stance is strong and proud with a solid chassis.

Thanks.

Marshall #10284

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Ken Michetti

01-03-2002 12:21:45
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 Re: Re: Re: Ford engine to air compressor conversion in reply to Marshall Rimland, 12-04-2000 19:05:46  
I have a v6 jeep air compressor and a friend has the 4 cyl rendition. Contact me.
Ken



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