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Joe

01-16-2001 18:30:46




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I have a 63 MF Super 90 with a perkins diesel, high crop, a great tractor, runs good, a good puller. I have a power steering fluid leak from the clutch housing. I haven't taken the time to tear it down. I never hear or see anything on the Super 90. Am I the only man alive that owns a Super 90???? If you have one of these tractors or have experienced a problem with the power steering leaking from the clutch housing I woul like to hear from you

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danny ederer

04-11-2004 12:04:37




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 Re: MF Super 90 in reply to Joe, 01-16-2001 18:30:46  
my super 90 has the same problem but now the pto doesnt have any power unless you use the ground drive if anyone has info on this let me know



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Ralph

01-23-2001 21:15:36




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 Re: MF Super 90 in reply to Joe, 01-16-2001 18:30:46  
I too have a MF Super 90, theres a picture of it at this site. Great little tractor but I have a similar problem. One of you mentioned having the pto quit when you turn the steering wheel. Definitely the power steering pump alsosupplies the pto clutch pressure. I have the I& T shop manual for this tractor and it gives some good information on this. I have'nt done a hydraulic pressure test on the steering but I suspect my pump is just about worn out. Last time I checked the MF dealer wanted big bucks for a new one if it was even available so to date I am living with the problem. I wondered if anybody has ever tried adapting a different pump for the power steering pump. Maybe a belt driven pump like the automotive style. Or possibly a gear driven one off the injection pump gear. Theres a plate just below the injection pump, looks like a good location for an auxiliary hyd. pump. Just a thought.
Just sent my diesel injection pump in for repair today. It was leaking probably as much fuel on the ground as what the engine burned.

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Joe

01-24-2001 07:02:47




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 Re: Re: MF Super 90 in reply to Ralph, 01-23-2001 21:15:36  
Ralph, thanks for the input on the Super 90. I will not be able to work on my Super 90 for about three weeks atleast but I will touch base with you when I do. How do I access the picture on this site??? Thanks again



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Greg

01-19-2001 15:18:45




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 Re: MF Super 90 in reply to Joe, 01-16-2001 18:30:46  
Joe:

I too have a Super 90 and it's probably the best pulling, best running most fuel efficient tractor of it's size (my completely biased opinion only). I bought the tractor three years ago and like you had never heard or seen one before, but the price was right and the green tractors that I looked at were half the horsepower and twice the price so I rolled the dice and bought the old girl. I did have to rebuild the engine right away because it was using more oil than fuel. Parts are getting hard to find, but I do know a place where you can still get some of the hard to find items; sounds like your engine is fine though.

While I had the engine apart I did get a good look at the clutch and the lines that run back into the transmission. Your power steering return line goes into the transmission and is where you get the hydraulic power to lock your PTO clutch up. If your power steering pump ever goes out (like mine has) you will loose your PTO. Mine left me while I was baling hay and everytime I turned the steering wheel the baler would quit. Anyway, your leak could be there. As one other gentleman posted to you, your PTO dump valve is also located right at the clutch. This valve stops the PTO when you press the clutch ALL the way down. I'm sure you know it, but you don't have to use the clutch to engage or disengage the PTO unless you're using the ground drive (full aft)feature of your PTO system.

I would check to see if you are loosing PTO by hooking it to something substantial and seeing if the old girl will keep it turning. If you are loosing much pressure, chances are that the PTO will stop turning. If not, the dump valve would be my next guess. You can see it but I believe, (I'm not positive on this one) you will have to pull the oil pan and then you should be able so see it right there around the clutch. WARNING: be careful with that oil pan it is HEAVY!!!

Other than that, I would suspect a bad seal around the transmission input shaft. If someone put the wrong type of fluid in the transmission, it could have caused your seals to get soft and start leaking. Although if that's the case, you should have other leaks as well, like around the PTO output shaft.

Good luck with you tractor, if you enjoy it half as much as I do my old girl you'll be happy for years to come.

Let me know via e-mail how it goes. I'm always interested in hearing about other 90's.

Greg McKinney
70263,1774@compuserve.com

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Joe

01-19-2001 18:54:53




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 Re: Re: MF Super 90 in reply to Greg, 01-19-2001 15:18:45  
Thanks for the comeback Greg. I"m building a shed to stow my tractors under for some protection from the summer sun here in Arizona. I plan to finish it before I tackle anything else. A couple more weeks at the most. I do remember having a problem engaging and disingaging the PTO but have never had it on a load. I had no idea there was any connection. When I begin to work on the 90 I will use your recommendations. I plan to print out all replys as soon as I get off-line just in case I look for it one day and it has disappeared like it happened to me in the Farmall forum. Thanks again and I will be intouch.

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jeff

01-17-2001 08:12:41




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 Re: MF Super 90 in reply to Joe, 01-16-2001 18:30:46  
I have a MF 85 High crop ( basically the same tractor as a Super 90, only older ). I had a couple of leaks ( seals ) that I replaced and some more that need replacing. Good tractor otherwise. The leak you are talking about, are you sure it is from the power steering and not the seal on the front of the transmission? If it is power steering, the dump valve is located behind the clutch, which may be leaking, or maybe one of the hydraulic lines for steering? Does your 90 have Multi-Power? How bad is the leak? You will probably end up having to split the tractor to find it ( and fix it ).

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Joe

01-18-2001 15:14:46




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 Re: Re: MF Super 90 in reply to jeff, 01-17-2001 08:12:41  
Jeff thanks for you. I sent you a follow-up but I guess it did not go. We will try again. Idon't think I have multi-power, the operator manual I sent for does not mention it. The reason I thought it was power steering is that it leaks more at higher RPM. I removed the insp plate cover and can't tell where the leak is coming from. I suppose it hits the drive shaft and slings the oil all over. I am sending from a service manual so when I get time and the weather is better I will get serious. I was hoping that this was a common problem and would be simple to fix. Thanks for your help.

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