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Jim Cunningham

09-24-2003 10:58:53

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I just picked up a 1953 Mustang 33,and have two questions.
1. It needs a coil, can I use any 6 volt one
2. Chould the electrial system be Pos. or Neg ground

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springtown sparky

09-24-2003 22:11:23

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Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to Jim Cunningham, 09-24-2003 10:58:53

The Mustang is a model 23 @ 24 HP The tractor serial # is on the frame just in front of the clutch pedal. The engine serial # is on the motor just above the dipstick. It was a 6 volt positive ground. As previosly stated you should check the starter (I've always been told the 6 Volt starter would handle 12V any comments on that appreciated)
and check the voltage regulator. The generator was an Auto-Lite GHD-6001V as standard equip. I had to replace the coil and got a 6V tractor coil. I have a manual and a lot of information about the mustang I've downloaded here and there. I would be happy to scan and send you any information I have. I posted awhile back asking about the Mustang, anybody have one? Please don't knock my gramar or spelling !!!!Sparky

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John Fila

11-01-2003 15:42:00

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Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to springtown sparky, 09-24-2003 22:11:23

I have a Mustang (23) and came across your note offering a copy of some info. My troubles started last year with a sticking clutch. It came on gradually over a couple of years but now it will not free up. I've tried some suggestions from here; driving it against a tree to force it to breaqk free. Towing it in a low gear, Removing the clutch viewiing plate underneath and spraying it with one of the penetrating super lubes and prying it apart while under there. Nothing seems to work and now I've compounded my problem. In an attempt to access te clutch from the top of the transmission I had removed all the parts to gain access. Including the seat, plates and all the hydrqaulics. Boy was that a mistake. Now I cant seem to find a way to hook up the hydraulic system to make it work. I do have one manual,. an I&T Massey Harris shop manual but it doesn't show me enough detail to see if I've connected the two hydraulic lines at the correct places. Pressure to pressure and return to return. I also seem to have extended the cylinder all the way out and nothing I do will return it. I had a great deal of trouble linking the follower arm, the one that tells the cylinder when to stop, and I suspect my trouble is there. But again, I have no good picture of how it should be.
Any help would be greatly appreciated on either of my problems. Otherwise I will try to pull the whole clutch assembly out and see what I find.

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STEVEN H

09-24-2003 13:58:45

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Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to Jim Cunningham, 09-24-2003 10:58:53

the mustang was not modle #33 you should get back to use on if it is a #33 or a mustang. it should be a possitive ground, and depeding of if the tractor has been switched over to 12v or is still 6v will determan the coil you need. if you put a 6v coil on a 12v batt, you will fry the coil fast.

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Jim Cunningham

09-24-2003 18:16:34

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Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to STEVEN H, 09-24-2003 13:58:45

Thank you; Have only worked on john deeres.
Time for a change,the man I got tractor from said it was 33 but all I can read on side is Mustang.

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STEVEN H

09-24-2003 19:10:06

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Re: Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to Jim Cunningham, 09-24-2003 18:16:34

if you get us the S numbers that will be on the deck plate on the clutch side right behind the clutch abought oh 2 inch we will be able to tell you the year and modle of the Massey harris that you have. and that way you will be able to get the right parts that you need to get the job done. there are a few parts sellers here that have many new and used parts for many massey harris tractors.

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rjj

09-24-2003 15:47:08

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Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to STEVEN H, 09-24-2003 13:58:45

Steven H needs to use his spell checker or learn
how to spell!!!!

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Alberta Mike

09-24-2003 18:40:38

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Re: Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to rjj, 09-24-2003 15:47:08

Actually, I was able to read and understand his comments very easily regardless of the spelling .... and I might add that he helped someone out with a question which is somewhat more than your comments did. Remember what was said in the Bambi movie back in the 50's ... "If you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all". Just my two cents worth.

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Ron

09-24-2003 12:37:31

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Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to Jim Cunningham, 09-24-2003 10:58:53

If you have a Mustang it is a model 23. The electrical system was positive ground originally, but may have been changed sometime since new. If you have a battery, check to see which cable is grounded,or check bottom of regulator for positive or negative markings. The generator will have to be polarized. If the ground is wrong, the ammeter will show discharge.A 6 volt tractor coil is probably OK. If you go to a Auto parts store ask for an internally resisted coil. Hope this helps.

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C. T. in Oklahoma

09-24-2003 15:55:02

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Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to Ron, 09-24-2003 12:37:31

Just my opinion, but I will take good tractor/mechanical knowlege over spelling any day. I am an excellent speller but I rely on the comments on this forum to help me with my tractor. C. T.

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Jim Cunningham

09-25-2003 05:39:46

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Re: Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-24-2003 15:55:02

Thanks a lot, I can't read eather S # tag so I can only go with what I see. On the side cover I can read Mustang.

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Ron

09-25-2003 07:39:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to Jim Cunningham, 09-25-2003 05:39:46

Scrape the area behind the PTO lever and in front of the differential cover on the top left side under the seat of all of the grease and dirt, then post that number.

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Jim Cunningham

09-25-2003 10:41:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to Ron, 09-25-2003 07:39:04

That # is as writen 23GIRF 1209
Thank You.

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sparky

09-25-2003 12:53:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Massey Mustang 33 in reply to Jim Cunningham, 09-25-2003 10:41:14

23GIRF is a gas row crop model, 1209 indicates it was probably made in 1952 definatly a Mustang. That information is available to the left under serial numbers. Need any help with information from the manual let me know. Finding parts is difficult but not impossible. There are manuals available for $25 to $40.

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