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Lee @ Elk Mound

12-28-2006 12:27:17

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I recently bought a "parts" "B" without a serial number tag. A neighbor said the serial number could also be found on the transmission casting just below the hand clutch--so we looked and lo and behold, that area was ground off. It's hard to imagine this tractor being valuable enough to be hot so what other motives could there be for removing serial number evidence? I personally can't get convinced that the actual tractor serial number is embossed or otherwise imprinted on the tractor in any place other than the normal aluminum serial number tag. I think whatever was ground off of this tractor was probably a part number. Anyone have any firm answer to that question or even an opinion? Would appreciate some thoughts.

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P Browning

12-28-2006 15:26:38

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Re: john deere tractor serial numbers in reply to Lee @ Elk Mound, 12-28-2006 12:27:17

Lee -- The real significance of serial numbers with John Deere tractors is in procurement of spare or replacement parts. If you have a parts catalog for any John Deere tractor, take a look through the pages and you will (in many places) two and perhaps more part numbers for the same reference item. What makes the part number versus serial number important is to identify the actual part that goes with a particlular tractor. Even with your Parts Tractor, it is important insofar as knowing which tractors the parts in your Parts Tractor are good for.

Now, as you can begin to surmise, you can narrow down the serial number range your tractor belongs in by checking part numbers of various items that were changed at various serial number points in production. Also -- someone out there in YT Forum Land has a skinny sheet on the Styled JD-B tractors which describes different points when major features came in or went out. I also have it -- but at the moment cannot put my hands on it. I will look. e-mail me if you think you would like me to send it to you. (PatB)

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Jason Z in MO

12-28-2006 13:32:58

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Re: john deere tractor serial numbers in reply to Lee @ Elk Mound, 12-28-2006 12:27:17

Just a hunch but I would guess the grinding marks you see on the part are probably from the foundry. When the part is cast they would clean up and machine the required surfaces.

What you are seeing is probably the result of some foundry worker and a grinder cutting of the gates and major surface imperfections.

Jason

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machinery-man

12-28-2006 12:50:36

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Re: john deere tractor serial numbers in reply to Lee @ Elk Mound, 12-28-2006 12:27:17

I have had 5 of those B"s and don"t recall a serial # elsewhere. Personally I don"t understand the fixation with the serial #"s. Barring the fact that the tractor is stolen, or someone using a serial # for fraudulant reasons I can"t understand why a good tag cannot be placed on the case as long as it goes with the series of the tractor. All these old tractors are generally not the same tractor from the factory anyway. With all the parts shuffled and replaced with use, new factory, after factory everything is different. A serial plate is helpful for identification but that"s about it. Tractors aren"t registered anyway and they are strictly personal property.

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tstex2

12-28-2006 13:42:23

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Re: john deere tractor serial numbers in reply to machinery-man, 12-28-2006 12:50:36

Mach-Man/Mike,

The [original] serial number/plate are to authenicate the year the tractor was made, thus validate the actual age of the tractor.

The more original parts a tractor has, thus the serial# plate, the more valuable the tractor is alleged to be. Of course anything today can be reduplicated for the right $$$ value. However, most of the tractor people i have dealt with are pretty honest and would state if the s-plate were changed/altered.

If you are just needing a tractor for your own personal use/consumption and showing it is not an objective, then a s-plate doesn't mean much...if however you are showing it, then your value as a tractor is considered less than the same type of tractor that has it original s-plate.

Happy New Year,
tstex

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Mike M

12-28-2006 13:20:19

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Re: john deere tractor serial numbers in reply to machinery-man, 12-28-2006 12:50:36

The fixation comes into play with something like that 5010 #1 and people paying big money just to own the first one. The second one aint worth squat.

I never could understand it either ? I got 2 LA"s none of them have tags and most I see don"t either. They are still LA"s and I don"t need a tag to tell that they are. Guess I"ll never know if I have #1 or not. Of course now that we have repop tags I could have 2 number #1 tractors ! LOL !

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Lee @ Elk Mound

12-28-2006 14:01:11

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Re: john deere tractor serial numbers in reply to Mike M, 12-28-2006 13:20:19

Thanks to all of you for answering my question. I'll take a little more time later to analyze all of them and maybe get back if further questions are prompted. Have a happy new year all.

Lee @ Elk Mound

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