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Model A clutch sprung a major leak!

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rob nickel

06-25-2006 06:27:19




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Just fired up my old A to move her over to her new job as a lawn ornament for the time being. She only had to move approximitly 200 feet down hill at that, but within that short distance sprung a huge oil leak from the clutch basket area. And I mean a huge leak! Anybody know how big a job it'll be to repair this problem? And all the part's that'll need replacing in order to do the job properly? Gotta be a seal in there somewhere, and I just wondered how big of one at that?

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Lee B

06-26-2006 02:36:28




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 Re: Model A clutch sprung a major leak! in reply to rob nickel, 06-25-2006 06:27:19  
It may be as simple as poking a bit of trash plugging up the oil return hole directly under the right main bearing.

The only seal in there is a spiral groove on the clutch operating sleeve that returns excessive oil to the transmission input shaft gear cover (that big lump of cast iron that the clutch sticks out of). From inside there, right main bearing oil is supposed to drain back thru a hole about the size of your finger, by gravity alone, back into the crankcase, but if it's plugged by a wasp nest, the oil will back up in there until it flows out the clutch and by the gallon especially when going downhill.

Since your symptoms are almost exactly the above, I'm just assuming this is your problem. The easiest way to unplug the hole is from the inside of the crankcase. But to be sure the plug gets fully removed you probably better plan on pulling the clutch and gear cover. The chances of you pulling the plug thru the hole just under the right main bearing from inside the crankcase is somewhat doubtful at best, but it sure would be the easier fix.

On the other hand, if you don't allow the clutch to turn while idling, then the oil gets slung into the back side of that gear case by the crank and doesn't get drawn up to the drain hole in order to flow back into the engine. If your oil was cold and that gear case was full and then you moved it (especially downhill), then all that cold oil might not have been able to drain away fast enough thru that finger sized hole as the now moving clutch gear would gather that gear case oil in huge volumes, the colder, the more oil it would try to pack in behind the clutch area. So you may not need to do a thing but start letting the clutch drum roll while the engine idles in neutral from now on.

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JDK

06-25-2006 07:44:39




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 Re: Model A clutch sprung a major leak! in reply to rob nickel, 06-25-2006 06:27:19  
Check your oil level. Gasoline or water probably raised the level too high.
If it smells like gasoline, you have a leaking fuel shut off or bad/leaking float valve. Less likely it may have enough water to raise the oil level high enough to leak out.
Either way, drain all fluid out.
I would open the oil level plug and see how much drains out. If its not over full, I"m sure someone else will have a better idea on what to do.

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41JDb

06-25-2006 18:08:06




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 Re: Model A clutch sprung a major leak! in reply to JDK, 06-25-2006 07:44:39  
JDK idea sound like a good first step. I overfilled my B by a little and had some dribbling out. Better to check simple stuff before tearing it apart.



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JDK

06-25-2006 18:48:07




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 Re: Model A clutch sprung a major leak! in reply to 41JDb, 06-25-2006 18:08:06  
Yep! It only takes one time of tearing something down, and finding out a simple solution was the answer!!! Been there, done that.



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