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JD B fly wheel removal

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Ringy

02-20-2006 11:51:07




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Hello,

I've never worked on a JD before, but I have a student working on a mid 70's (possibly)JD "B". He is having a lot of trouble removing the fly wheel. Is there some trick I can tell him to try. Any help is welcome.

Thank You!!




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Wally4000

02-20-2006 22:55:51




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 11:51:07  
The early styled electric start "B" has a flywheel crank ratchet bolted to the flywheel with 2 bolts. These bolts do not loosen the flywheel. you need to loosen the pinch bolts on the inside of the flywheel. That flywheel weighs about 90 lbs.



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F-I-T

02-21-2006 01:16:00




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Wally4000, 02-20-2006 22:55:51  
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That's a good point Wally. What he sees as "bolts on the outside" might just be the hump of metal that is bolted on for the crank ratchet.

If it is the bolts on the outside late-styled flywheel, another way to get it loosened might be to use our old fence post method. Get a large wooden post, and bump the flywheel at several places around the periphery. This should shock it just a bit and if all of the bolts are out, it should come free.

Frank

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Mike M

02-21-2006 05:01:46




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to F-I-T, 02-21-2006 01:16:00  
Yep; that's what's great about this forum !

Since Wally brought it up and coupled with FIT's picture I'm now placing my bets that this is the best odds of his problem and those were "the two bolts on the outside" What a change of perspective Wally brought up. I never would of saw it that way.

I can only hope that young fellow gets online and checks this out.



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Dave NE IA

02-20-2006 20:19:05




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 11:51:07  
I'm old and have much more muscle just above and over my belt for jaring the flywheel. A young kid might have better luck running and kicking the outer edge till it comes loose. I have a real over concern nature about saftey, and you stated he was a kid. I certianly do not want to overstate the obvious, but those are very heavy if you are not prepared when it comes off the end of the shaft. Dave NE IA

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ricedaddy

02-20-2006 19:00:43




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 11:51:07  
Mike M, been doing it for many many years and never messed one yet, but to each his own way, was just trying to help by doing it my way,
Have a good day
Ron



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Mike M

02-21-2006 04:49:19




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to ricedaddy, 02-20-2006 19:00:43  
I let my cousin take the one off my parts B a late model. That chisel cost me alot of money as it broke the edge where the bolts are.Ruined a good flywheel. I have a pretty good sized 2 jaw puller and this is a much better way to get the tough ones loose. It usually doesn't take much pressure as you are pulling evenly.



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Ringy

02-20-2006 17:46:09




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 11:51:07  
Thank you for the replies. He says he has a computer at home and I hope he checks this site out tonight. I rebuilt my Ford 8n a few years ago and all the boys on the Ford board were a great help. You "Green" guys have a great chance to help out a young kid just learning about these old tractors an get him hooked for life. I can sure think of worse things for a young kid to do than putz around on an old tractor after school. Thanks again for the advice.

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F-I-T

02-20-2006 17:49:39




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 17:46:09  
Well send him over and tell him to remind us that his was the "B" with the stubborn flywheel.

We'll help him out.

Frank



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ricedaddy

02-20-2006 15:54:34




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 11:51:07  
try driveing a chisel in one or both slots! (safety glasses)



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Mike M

02-20-2006 18:44:26




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to ricedaddy, 02-20-2006 15:54:34  
DO NOT DO THIS AS YOU WILL RUIN A GOOD FYLWHEEL WHEN A CHUNK BREAKS OUT ! BTDT



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F-I-T

02-20-2006 12:07:11




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 11:51:07  
Ringy:

If it is a "B", it can be no older than 1935 and no newer than 1952. There were two basic designs of flywheels: bolts on the outside ('47 and later) and bolts on the inside ('35 through '46).

For the bolts-on-the-outside- style, remove the large tin (sheet steel) nut form the crankshaft, then remove the two large bolts. You might have to wiggle it a bit to get it let go, but it will come free with a little rocking.

For the bolts-on-the-inside- style, it really helps if you have the special wrench that Deere provided with the tractors when sold new. They are available from used equipment dealers and on eBay very frequently. Short of that, some folks weld the correct size socket to a bar or use an old extension, then heat it with a torch and bend it into the correct contortion. This will relieve the pinch on the flywheel and again you might have to wiggle it a bit to get it let go, but it will come free with a little rocking.

That's about all there is to removing the flywheel. Comeback on what type you have and you might get some more thorough advice.

Frank

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Ringy

02-20-2006 13:16:35




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to F-I-T, 02-20-2006 12:07:11  
He says it has two bolts on the outside. He has used a puller and it won't budge. I have never even looked closely at one so I can't help him too much. I'm just going by his description of things. He is a pretty good kid and I'd like to help him out.



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Mike M

02-20-2006 18:50:27




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 13:16:35  
It really seems strange it wouldn't move with a puller ?? I wonder if the bolts and lock nut are off ??

You most generally get questions of how to keep them tight ?



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F-I-T

02-20-2006 16:08:20




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 Re: JD B fly wheel removal in reply to Ringy, 02-20-2006 13:16:35  
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Well, he should completely remove the two long bolts from the flanges as well as the large tin nut. Additionally, he might try to put a chisel or two in the slot between the flange shoulders. A little, just a little pressure here might relieve the pressure so as to let the flywheel wriggle off.

Frank

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