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repower a 1010 dozer

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jda

01-10-2006 13:24:54




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what motor would work the easiest? this thing is just to underpowered. just wondering what motor has the same bolt pattern




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jda

01-11-2006 11:50:25




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 Re: repower a 1010 dozer in reply to jda, 01-10-2006 13:24:54  
it is a deisel, it does seem to make rated power, alot has been done to it it checking timing, injectors etc, it just seems to need a little more. Do the combine or the 2010s have more power, I wonder if we could put a little jimmy in it like the one in the 435 or 440? how different was the input shaft etc, on those? they are easy to make more power if needed.



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jdemaris

01-11-2006 07:17:44




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 Re: repower a 1010 dozer in reply to jda, 01-10-2006 13:24:54  
1010s and 2010s share the old two-cylinder engine bolt-pattern. So, 1010s, 2010s, and 420-430-440 two cylinder gas engines will interchange. But, I doubt you want a two cylinder engine in your 1010 although the 1010 four cylinder and the 420 two cylinder engines are just about the same cubic inch displacement (113 and 115 c.i.) 2010 or combine engine will bolt right in. The extra power isn't much of a problem except for heavy work while the reverser is in "reverse" - if your machine has a hydraulic reverser. The 1010 basic drivetrain including the final drives is just as strong - and in some ways the same - as used in the later 350s. Deere Company repowers the 350s with a 179 cubic inch 47 horsepower engine. A 2010 gas or diesel is also 47 horsepower - i.e. the same power rating. Problem with the hydraulic reverser is the inadequate size input shaft counter-bearing. It was too small for heavy work in the 1010s and early 350s. Deere sold updated parts for it that required changing the input shaft/drum and bearings (very expensive). Simple solution is - if you have to work the machine heavy going backwards - keep the reverser in "forward" and use the gear reverse in the transmission instead. When the 350C series began, the gear-reverse was eliminated - but it's there for all the older machines.

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buickanddeere

01-10-2006 18:18:27




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 Re: repower a 1010 dozer in reply to jda, 01-10-2006 13:24:54  
Is the current engine making rated power? I doubt a set of 42+ year old final drives with ??? hours should be subjected to more than stock HP. Is this machine being used with heavy loads in 1st gear or lighter loads in the mid to higher gears?



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Roy Suomi

01-10-2006 17:39:28




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 Re: repower a 1010 dozer in reply to jda, 01-10-2006 13:24:54  
You didn't say if it was gas or diesel.. Diesel is a little bit less lethargic than gas.. Still a troublesome bit of ancient engineering.. I believe 2010 bolts up to it, should have a little more a$$ if it's healthy..Maybe Lavoy can say if it's the same.. I've never swapped 1010-2010 engines..



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