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Bkeepr

01-09-2005 05:09:43




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My local New Holland dealer sells three brand names of brush hogs. The salesman identified them as "Lowry," Rhino, and New Holland. New Holland appears to be overpriced, paying for the name. Rhino looks well-built but is very pricey and probably too heavy for my tractor and my needs (old 8N gets light in the front end with too much weight hanging off the back).

So I'm looking at 2 models of the Lowry. They're not marked. Salesman says it is a very small company in Alabama, but doesn't have much info about the machines themselves. Decent-looking implement for a reasonable price, so I'm considering it but want more info on Lowry.

Anybody have any experience with Lowry? Anybody ever hear of them? What're they like?

My alternative will be something from TSC like kingkutter, since watching auctions and classifieds hasn't netted me anything yet and I need to get hogging soon.

thanks,
Tom A

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NEsota

01-09-2005 18:13:21




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to Bkeepr, 01-09-2005 05:09:43  
In my previous post I was referring to seeding big bluestem but have also seeded little bluestem and several other "native" grasses. I used the Great Plaines no till drill with three seed boxes. The box used for both bluestems was the one with the agitator that helps the seed drop down to the metering "gear" that shoves it into the drop tube. Will be happy to answer any questions I can about native grass.

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wondering

01-09-2005 19:34:15




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to NEsota, 01-09-2005 18:13:21  
NEsota, Thanks for the info! I'll keep that in mind when I start planting. BTW, what other natives have you tried and had sucess with, gamma side oats?



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JK-NY

01-09-2005 16:35:57




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to Bkeepr, 01-09-2005 05:09:43  
A couple thougths- look into an overrunning clutch for the pto on your 8N, they are fairly cheaps and can save a lot of wear annd tear/damage to your tractor when brush hogging. Also if hills are a problem you may want to consider a pull type brush hog,which will help keep the front end from raising going uphill, especialy with the pto driven hydraulics on an 8N , which will also make it so you have to put the pto in gear whenever you want to raise the brush hog , not the handiest set up.Sorry I cant help with your question as I've never heard of Lowry Implements.

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Mac

01-09-2005 15:52:08




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to Bkeepr, 01-09-2005 05:09:43  
A lot depends what you'll use a cheap cutter for.
I destroyed a KK72-60 in less than 3 seasons in 1-2" brush. Probably would have lasted a while just clipping pasture. I bought an all around machine, not one I have to treat with kid gloves.



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Indydirtfarmer

01-09-2005 05:59:46




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to Bkeepr, 01-09-2005 05:09:43  
I bought, then promtly re-sold a Lowrey 6' box scraper last summer. I did some investigating while it was here, because I've never heard of them before that.

Usually, I open;y support small American business's when I can. BUT....I won't promote a cheap grade of product, unless it is a durable, well made piece.

Lowery builds stuff that's about the same "grade" as King Kutter. (Cheap, "consumer grade") At least with King Kutter, there is a reasonable chance to get parts through some of their retail outlets (TSC, ect)

I'd approach Lowery with caution.

That Rhino mower you were looking at is about as good as anything on the market. JMHO, John

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NEsota

01-09-2005 20:18:40




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 01-09-2005 05:59:46  
In my previous post I was referring to seeding big bluestem but have also seeded little bluestem and several other "native" grasses. I used the Great Plaines no till drill with three seed boxes. The box used for both bluestems was the one with the agitater that helps the seed drop down to the metering "gear" that shoves it into the drop tube. Will be happy to ansewer any questions I can about native grass.

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Burrhead

01-09-2005 17:37:46




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 01-09-2005 05:59:46  
John when a feller needs some KingKutter parts they don"t have any problem at all selling and shipping directly to the end user. TSC can and will drag around on getting a part for you.

I"ve been using KK for many moons with no problems from product or parts supply.



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Bkeepr

01-09-2005 06:15:58




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 01-09-2005 05:59:46  
Thanks.

I'd love the Rhino, but right now have two things against it--it is twice the price as the Lowery (and the King Kutter, too) and is I'm guessing about 100 lbs more weight, all a lot farthur behind, than the others. Since I hog a lot of pretty steep hills, I have to worry about balance on my little 8N.

I just can't justify that kind of money for something I may have to resell quickly if it turns out to be more than my tractor can handle.

Tom A

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old

01-09-2005 08:33:38




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to Bkeepr, 01-09-2005 06:15:58  
Thats one of the 8N problems to light on the front. You could add weights up front, which I would do no matter what because almost any hog will make it light up front. Also if your hogging anything but grass with no rocks the light hog will do but if you have rocks etc you will kill it before you get your moneys worth out of it. Your other op would be a pull type



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NEsota

01-09-2005 12:14:07




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to old, 01-09-2005 08:33:38  
Nine years ago I bought the cheapest new 5-foot cutter I could find. It has an Agra-Five decal on it. I think the gear box is the same as the Tractor Supply and several other of the off-brands. The first year, in late August, S.E. Nebraska, I cut a new seeding of C.R.P. Bluestem. There were more tall (four or five or more feet) broad-leaf weeds and shatter-cane than Bluestem. The engine in the N ran like new and much of the time cutting the 58 acres we (N&I) could only cut about a two foot swath of the tallest and heaviest because we didn't have the power. This was low gear and wide open. The shear pins on the PTO drive shaft were 3/8 inch grade five and we broke 2 or 3 dozen of them. When you run like that, with the N and hit a clump of stuff you have the full force of the engine plus the velocity and mass of the forward motion transmitted directly to the PTO shaft. With a live PTO, you might get some clutch slippage, and would therefore shear fewer pins or put less stess on the shaft.

Since then, we have cut acres of wild plum growth, in native pasture, up to two inches in diameter. Last spring I hired a more experienced operator to do the plums and he refused to go after the big stuff because he was concerned he would damage the HOG. I then did it successfully. He said "you've got more guts than I have." For maintenance I have done the following: retightened and double-nutted a lot of the bolts, straighted and welded sheetmetal, sharpened the blades, kept gear-oil in the box and cut a three inch hole in the top sheetmetal to get at the blade bolts.

There are no weights on the front of the N and rear weight is no problem. Once, when operating there was one hell of a commotion behind me, and out of the corner of my eye, I caught a glimpse of something red rolling in the grass to the right and away from the HOG. My first thought was that is was the gear-box, but it was only my chain-saw. Never have I abused a piece of equipment the way I have the HOG and it just "keeps going and going".

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LuckyDawg

01-09-2005 16:50:07




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to NEsota, 01-09-2005 12:14:07  
If you"re not using Bush Hog brand mowers and rotarys,then you"re using an imposter. Up here in NH, you can purchase a Bush Hog with slipclutch ( no shear bolts) and stumpjumper for almost the same money as the cheap fakes. They use heavy duty gearboxs and have longer warrantees. Plus you can get parts. Many of the fake brands only have forty-five day gearbox warrantees, if at all,and parts are hard to get. Also, don"t forget the over-running coupler when using the pto on the N or you"ll keep on moving even with the clutch pedal all the way down.

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Bkeepr

01-10-2005 04:28:40




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to LuckyDawg, 01-09-2005 16:50:07  
Around here, Bushhog brand and one or two others are at least twice the price. I got about 6 years of very heavy use out of my old no-name and it was about 15 years old when I got it...so I simply can't justify twice the price for a name brand.

Tom A



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wondering

01-09-2005 12:53:37




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to NEsota, 01-09-2005 12:14:07  
Which bluestem, little or big, did you plant and what did you use to plant it? I'm trying to get more bluestem on some ground and have heard it's hard to plant because of the 'fluffiness' of the seed. Thanks!



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NEsota

01-09-2005 20:56:18




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to wondering, 01-09-2005 12:53:37  
WONDERING,
We only seeded Sideoats Grama as a part of a mixture of five other native grasses. This mixture was dictated by the CRP contract requirements. It preformed as expected.



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THANKS!

01-10-2005 06:11:18




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to NEsota, 01-09-2005 20:56:18  
Just 'wondering' how it turned out. I've got native bluestem(both) and some Sideoats Grama? on old, non-CRP pasture and am trying to get more sown to replace fescue. Thanks again for the info!



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4386ECILL

01-10-2005 18:07:15




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 Re: Brush hog brands in reply to THANKS!, 01-10-2005 06:11:18  
Asking for brands of cutters - - -

Just another name to throw out that I don't think has been mentioned - Schulte - I hope I spelled it right. I see the State of Illinois using this brand of mower on the highway right of way - in Clark County anyway. I'm not vouching for them - just mentioning the name.



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