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Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with Hay!

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Anhthony

07-16-2004 18:16:32
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First time got a NH 488 cut the hay dryed two day raked it three rows together with a R 23 A double rake. Today from 10-6.45 pm only baled 9 bales! Tried 1 st gear -2nd-3rd in my JD 4230 at 12-rpm then 15-& 20 all different speed tried third gear just keep jamming the basket full of hay. Stared slow too!Measures the pickup teeth to the rubber flap at 1.5 inches a way thats what it was set at. About 5.00 pm I ajusted it to about three inches away the hay didnt wrap arounf the flap roller the hay is dry enough. What my trouble.Its hard to pull hay all day out the t his baler!!!Help!!!!The bales LOOK great when they start it just so hard when it jams up !

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Athony Fixed it!!! THANKS

07-17-2004 15:30:08
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
Tryed it around 11.00 & a friend thats bales around here couldnt get it to go! So I took it to seguin Vermeer dealer he looked at it & said look better than 75 % baler he see & works on ajusted the teeth to the pickup flat from 3 inches back to 1.1/8 frtom flap to teeth closer than before & starts in 3rd gear just a bit of hay then add a bit here threw the pickup & sucks that baby ready for another bale 4-5th gear this baler eats hay my 4230 trannie got a trannie light came on again clean the cooler later & bale in a few hours after it cools down ! Love laying BIG Eggs!!! Thanks Everyone this is the best place!!!

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James in NC

07-17-2004 06:05:11
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
The h is a good baler andit can work for you. You might want to ask your closet dealer or call the factory for help. The service guys in Pella really know there stuff. Please give a dealer or the factory guys a chance before you trade it might not be much of a problem.



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txblu

07-17-2004 06:01:04
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
My starting problems

.Too wet (fails 3 turn twist test)
.Too dry (crackling)
.Too big a wind row .Trying to feed too much into pickup before roll starts
. Not being centered on windrow for starting roll
.Old SLICK belts

So, your respondents covered all your possible sins except belts. I tried to correct everything mentioned and still had a problem starting stemmy sudan until I put on new belts with the center 2 being the chevron pattern.

Huh, I can speed into the windrow now and have zero problems unless, (get this) it is too DRY.

Good luck,

Mark

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Anthony

07-17-2004 05:41:10
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
I live in San Marcos Texas & the field is medeo & Gordo bluestem I cut it about knee high some place it was half knee high thats why I put the windrows together still a bit small in places. Tryed baling again Sat morning at 6.45 the hay wrapped around the front pickup flapper roller so too wet. I stoped let the dew dry off & try one more time or trade these 605 H for a new one !! Hope today when the dew drys off better Thanks everyone for the tips!want to be hay baler out

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joe e-tx

07-17-2004 05:53:04
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 Re: Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed w in reply to Anthony, 07-17-2004 05:41:10  
way to early to start baling in tx 11:00-12:00 start is best. im going to try to do 1000-1200 squares to day and let round baler rest. will check back hope you get it baled. joe



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R. John Johnson

07-16-2004 21:30:08
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
The comment on 3 windrows together may be correct. The older Vermeer balers do not like large windrows.

Wrapping hay round the starting roller happens when the moisture content is too high.

Are the new teeth Vermeer or "will fits"? Vermeer teeth in my experince are stiffer and do a better job of stuffing hay into the chamber.

When I start a bale with my Vermeer I start with a limited amount of hay on one side of the baler and quickly weave to get hay across the entire width of the pickup. Watch the hay. You will see it suddenly suck into the chamber and the bale start to roll. You may have to stop your tractor to see this happen. If you get too much hay in the front of the baler it can not squeeze between the starter roller and the lower drum to get into the chamber and it is time to unplug. Once the core is formed you should be able to go along at a good clip. I bale in 5th or 6th with my 4010.

Good luck

John

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paul

07-16-2004 21:17:32
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
I would stop at 18-20' width of hay rolled together. Now that depends on how heavy the hay is, but 3 swaths sounds kinda thick - my 605 F wouldn't care for it.

A bearing lock collar loosened, bearing ate into the shaft on the top drive roller on my 605, so have that at the machine shop since Thursday, they are building me a new roller. Was supposed to bale for a neighbor today, but the shopis so busy, won't get to it until Monday at the earliest.

Had some problems getting the right parts for a wheel rake, was shipping parts back & forth Thursday.

My trusty NH 55 rake had some bearings fall apart in the gearbox, kept getting to be a bigger job as I dug into it, but go it together...

My very favorate tractor for square baling, IHC 300, has been in the shop getting an engine rebuild for several weeks, so am using the same tractor to cut, rake, & bale. I miss the idependent pto, TA, and Fast Hitch on the baler!!!!!

My 1209 moco has a cracked frame, bearing holder for a roller cracked right out of the side, don't have time to pull it all apart so someone can get in to weld & plate it - too busy cutting with the 14-92 sickle mower and fixing the other stuff.

--->Paul

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James in NC

07-16-2004 20:18:03
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
What do the flaps look like on he starter roller. Is the wind guard in the baler. Do you have all the teeth. The Are you weaving to start the bale? The book say the distance between the teeth and the flaps should be 1' to 3' inches. Pull up to the windrow in first gear and go about a 1 foot and stop. Give the baler time to eat. Back off on the hyd. tension. Maybe smaller windrows.



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billOH

07-16-2004 18:58:37
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
Triple windrows? Maybe that's your problem.



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Anthony

07-16-2004 18:24:39
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 Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed with in reply to Anhthony, 07-16-2004 18:16:32  
What a day in Hot Texas! First the tire on my JD 4230 fixed it LOL Then The gate on this 605 H baler came unlock the first bale trying to bale. The hydralic hose busted fixed it. This is my very first experince with baling bought everything replace 6 bearing all pickup teeth-bushing in cam belts baler like new! At the end of the day my 4230 trannie heated up .Tryed baling with a Ford 5640 2 nd gear slowed way down went to first still slowing down 4 ft bale & that was stuck in the bale Too! LOL Maybe somebody has a better day at baling than me top that story for a today!!!

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joe e-tx

07-17-2004 05:44:30
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 Re: Re: Vermeer 605 H baler keeps getting jammed w in reply to Anthony, 07-16-2004 18:24:39  
do you have a book on this baler? is gear box in 1000 rpm?. sounds like having to over rev tractor to turn baler,and move tractor.is slip clutch slipping 1500-2000 pressure on hyd. guage? my two Fs and J baler just eat up 4-5 foot wind rows.and sounds like you have plenty of tractor.if near tyler let me know. joe



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