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Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Hp to run a haybine

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Matthew(Mich)

11-03-2003 11:05:03
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Just wounder if my "45hp PTO" tractor will run a haybine? If so what size 7' or 9'. Or should I be looking at a plain sickle bar mower. Also how much hp to run a 4x5 round baler? Just looking to make hay on 10 acers. One man operatio thats why the round baler rather than square.

Thanks




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Leroy

11-04-2003 18:35:25
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
We used to pull a 9' Case Haybine( Same as a PT 10) with a 27 HP Farmal H



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Dave H

11-04-2003 12:41:17
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
Just to address your other issue, I cut hay in Michigan. I cut more than 10 acres. I am lucky if I can find someone to drive the tractor while I pick up my square bales. I think you are looking at too much equipment for 10 acres. Get a good old JD sickle mower and a square baler and work up a good sweat. It will cost you a lot less and you will find it it very hard work...but it's good and it's honest. Just my opinion.

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720Deere

11-04-2003 11:34:42
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
We pulled a 9' New Holland haybine with a JD 2020 (54 HP) for alot of years. Seemed to be plenty of power!



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RichZ

11-04-2003 09:48:12
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
As Paul said, weight is even a bigger issue than HP regarding balers. A new compact tractor just won't be heavy enough. However, if you're talking about a 45 hp older farm tractor, you may be alright, on level land. If you're on hills, it still may not be enough.



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T213R

11-03-2003 15:42:23
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
The very handy SPECIFICATIONS page in my OWNER'S MANUAL for my JD 1209 (nine foot three inches) states 35 hp (26kw). Does that help?



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Dave H

11-04-2003 12:33:51
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 Re: Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to T213R, 11-03-2003 15:42:23  
I think there's a message in there, Matt.



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thurlow

11-03-2003 14:27:13
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
I've always thought the correct answer to questions such as your's is, "IT ALL DEPENDS". What kind of hay, what kind of tractor, how steep is the ground, etc. I let some Sudex get over-mature (continual rainfall) one summer; when I finally got to it, the 9 ft haybine would 'bout pull the guts out of a 95 HP diesel 4020.....running in 2nd gear.



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Jerry D in NC

11-04-2003 11:14:19
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 Re: Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to thurlow, 11-03-2003 14:27:13  
Thurlow,

That is not considered forage when it gets to that point. It is called timber LOL

I pull a 7'4" 1207 JD MoCo all day long with a 34 hp Ford 2000 as fast as I want to sit in the seat in thick Alfalfa. Run a touch slower in thick grass but that is more of a cutting issue than power issue.



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rhudson

11-03-2003 14:06:27
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
hello,
i run a pt10 (9'-6") with a 38 hp jd all the time. i use to run a 5 x 5 bailor with the same tractor, but you have to plan your path. need to be going down hill with a near full chamber. now i pull the bailor with a 58 hp tractor and everybody is more happy. sometimes you can do things when you don't know anybetter. i think you will be ok with the 45 hp tractor.



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jf

11-03-2003 12:48:42
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
I run a 3930 (45 hp) new holland with a NH472 haybine (7 feet) and a NH 845 round baler. A lot of misconceptions about size of tractor needed to roll hay. Horsepower reqiurements are not great until chamber of baler is full or you are running a baler that is hydraulic tension. I bale on 10-20% slope. You will find that the equipment behind the tractor does as much to hold it back as the tractor itself. The hp requirement is just people wanting bigger toys

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Matthew(Mich)

11-03-2003 14:55:30
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 Re: Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to jf, 11-03-2003 12:48:42  
I've got a ford/NH 3930 also. So what size of bales does your baler make? I have a quick/detach loader 7310 model will it lift the bales and not make the rear of the tractor feel to light? My rear tires are loaded. My whole tractor w/loader weights 7500lbs.

Thanks Matthew



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Jimmy King

11-03-2003 12:55:19
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 Re: Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to jf, 11-03-2003 12:48:42  
We used to pull a 9ft. new holland all the time with a 330 IHC 35HP on some pretty steep hills.



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paul

11-03-2003 11:42:43
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
Weight becomes an issue too - in case that 45hp tractor is a new compact. ;) You have enough hp for a 7' for sure, and can run a 9' as well, altho a light tractor would feel like the tail wagging the dog trying to drag it through the field.

You can find smaller round balers that will run on 45. End up with 4x4 bales, possibly 4x5' in the right conditions. Do good research that your tractor will handle the particular machine you are getting - again, a lightweight would be the tail wagging the dog.

--->Paul

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Hay Dr

11-03-2003 16:03:06
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 Re: Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to paul, 11-03-2003 11:42:43  

A Vermeer Rebel 5400 need only 40 HP and we actually have a customer baling with one with a 2600 Ford and this is hill country.



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old

11-03-2003 11:31:34
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
I use an Oliver 77 to run my NH hay bine its a 9' and the 77 is 38Hp but you need at least 50 HP to run my NH 850 baler so you should be able to get either for your self I've also pulled the haybine with my ford 801 and its around 45 HP but the oliver does a better job with it hope this helps some



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Richg

11-03-2003 11:09:20
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 Re: Hp to run a haybine in reply to Matthew(Mich), 11-03-2003 11:05:03  
45 hp will run a 7' haybine with no problem as for the round baler not sure.



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