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Old IHC New Ideal Deering Mower information

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Jim C

09-19-2003 00:46:48

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I have an old mower, seems to be horse drawn, but converted to tractor hitch sometime in its history.
It has IHC markings, has the word Deering in raised letters on the casting and says New Ideal on the toolbox. The bar is 6 feet long. It is wheel driven, two iron wheels.
Not knowing anything about these, can anyone tell me what model I have by my description?
I believe it has open gears.



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Hugh MacKay

09-19-2003 03:09:36

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 Re: Old IHC New Ideal Deering Mower information in reply to Jim C, 09-19-2003 00:46:48  
Jim: Just looked at the book 150 Years of IH. These don't seem to have model numbers. The Deering Ideal mower was introduced in 1893 only 3.5' and 4' sizes, then he lists an Ideal Gaint 6' , which ended in 1911. New Ideal mowers were introduced in 1905 and New Ideal Giant in 1906. These were available in 4.5, 5, 6, and 7 foot szes. This ran until 1910. In 1909 New Ideal mowers type B were introduced and produced until 1918. This type B just seems to be improved versions of New Ideal and New Ideal Giant. The Giant models had heavier gears, wider wheels and I would gather the ones with 6 and 7 foot bars.

He also states that Deering mowers had the least side draft of any mower on the market. My dad mowed with horses and can remember he and fellow farmers discussing the effects of side draft on a team of horses. Apparently side draft could play a team out quite fast. Is also one of the few jobs where I remember my dad resting the horses. That was the reason the old timers kept the big shade trees in middle of fields, The rest areas.

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Joel Harman

09-19-2003 07:45:50

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 Re: Re: Old IHC New Ideal Deering Mower informatio in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-19-2003 03:09:36  
To minimize side draft one must have the outside of the sicklebar ahead of the inside. When cutting the bar ends up about perpendicular to the mowing machine.
I know you know this, Hugh, but others may not.

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Hugh MacKay

09-19-2003 10:34:23

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 Re: Re: Re: Old IHC New Ideal Deering Mower inform in reply to Joel Harman, 09-19-2003 07:45:50  
Joel: The other matter here is these mowers are close to hunderd years old. I would suspect relationship of mower bar between mower wheels and horses had quite an effect on sidedraft. I doubt if they had that one 100% at turn of last century either.

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