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14T Knife Arm Rollers

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Warren

08-20-2003 08:05:07




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I have a 14T baler that will miss about every 10 or 20 bales. The knot hangs on the bill hook and then the next ones miss until it is cleared. The wiper arm seems to be adjusted properly. When I took the arm off the assembly, I noticed that the brass rollers have flat spots. I imagine that this is contributing to the hangups.
Can I buy the rollers separately and if so, how do I remove the old ones and attach the new ones? If I need to buy the new knife arm, approximately how much do they cost?
Thanx.

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Bernie in MA

08-21-2003 19:11:08




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 Re: 14T Knife Arm Rollers in reply to Warren, 08-20-2003 08:05:07  
The tucker finger/blade not pushing the twine over far enough will cause the knot to hang up also. Took me a while to figure that one out.



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Rob

08-20-2003 09:19:48




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 Re: 14T Knife Arm Rollers in reply to Warren, 08-20-2003 08:05:07  
I believe the previous post is right. You need the complete arm. The washer and the roller are listed separately. According to the parts book, the part #'s are:- 24H 147 (Washer) & BP 47540 (Roller). However, they're listed as part of the Knife arm assembly. The sub number is AE 10455E. I looked at an old knife arm and I don't think it's meant to be taken apart. Hope this helps.



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Rob

08-20-2003 09:43:04




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 Re: Re: 14T Knife Arm Rollers in reply to Rob, 08-20-2003 09:19:48  
I gave you the part # for the "newer" (relatively speaking!) machine. Up to serial # 47540 it shows AM 2885 E. Yours is likely the later one. My machine's serial # is a 72 000 series. JD built lots of these and many are still being used. They're an example of an "oldie but goodie" machine, Either way it has to be 40 - 50 years old. I stacked racks behind one these (I cursed it for not breaking down often enough) as a young guy. My wages must have been cheaper than a kicker. I believe to this day that's what threw my hip out that still bothers me from time to time!

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Dale in IN

08-20-2003 08:32:53




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 Re: 14T Knife Arm Rollers in reply to Warren, 08-20-2003 08:05:07  
Warren:
On the 14T I do not believe those roller are brass. On mine and I have two different 14T balers they are steel, and rivited to the knife arm. I do not think that they can be bought seperate. They come as a unit.
As for removal follow the shaft up that the knife arm runs on and there is a large cotter pin that holds the shaft in the casting. You will probably only be able to see the head. Remove the pin and the shaft should slide out the bottom. You may have to work it around some to get it out. Remove the knotter hold down bolt and roll the knotter up where you can see the arm. Watch you fingers for they can be pinched easy. On my balers each one takes a different knive arm. So there must have been a change in the latter models. Another thing make sure your rollers are free to roll and your twine knifes are sharp. I generally spray mine every time I use it with WD 40 and make sure the roller will roll and not slide. Also remove any excess play in the spacing with shims on the shaft.The knife arm is supposed to ride the hooks very close and wipe the knot off. These arms can be bent. Make sure the arm travels far enough to get the knot off the arm.This is controlled by your roller and that short side can also be bent to give the arm a little more through.

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