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notjustair

04-02-2013 18:21:28




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This will be vague - sorry in advance.

Neighbor has a horse drawn two row JD planter. She didn't have any idea, but from looks I am thinking a 919 or 999 model (from looking in a parts book).

She uses it with a team to plant her acre or so of sweet corn but said that it drops the seed too close together. She had the drive chain on the middle gear. I switched it over to the smallest gear but I wonder if that will make a lot of difference. She has a TON of plates and was wondering if I could weld every other hole on a set of old plates so that it dropped less. Those plates look pot metal to me - seems challenging. It also seems like considering the number of plates she has (a wall full) she would have a plate that JD made that way if it was needed. There has to be another way of doing it.

What are the options?

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Leroy

04-03-2013 06:26:01




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to notjustair, 04-02-2013 18:21:28  
Just found my book and it has 9 different settings from 7" to 26". Will post the rest later



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notjustair

04-03-2013 08:21:13




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to Leroy, 04-03-2013 06:26:01  
Awesome, Leroy. I thought something didn't sound right, as back in the day they almost did them in hills, so I know you should be able to get it set up to drop them far apart.

She only has the parts manual and it is for several models, thus the confusion. One thing that confused me is that none of the pictures in the book show opener disks and this has them. They don't look add-on. It still has the blade opener but the disks as well. She bough it at the sale of a friend who bought it new, so I believe that it is original. She got a bunch of plates with it but also has a bunch from her years of farming, so I know we can get something to work.

It doesn't have separate closers or packer wheels. The wheels for the planter are about 36 inches tall and do the closing. They are split in the middle and angled to cover the furrow.

She is bringing it over for me to replace the opener bearings, so I will snap a pic and post it for you.

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Leroy

04-05-2013 06:25:31




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to notjustair, 04-03-2013 08:21:13  
Just was looking at one last night and wheels measured 30" so at 36" yours would have to be a high wheel model. And yes there is the gear box like I thought that doesn't show up as such in the poor parts book I was looking at.



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Leroy

04-03-2013 17:45:07




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to notjustair, 04-03-2013 08:21:13  
I think that would be the high wheel version as I think the low wheel were about 30", just thinking, don't know for a fact. I also think it has a gear box on it with 3 speeds marked 2, 3 or 4 andas I read this chart that says approximate drilling distances No. 999 planter here goes, plates 16 cell, high wheel, first figure is setting of shift lever, second is large sprocket, next is medium sprocket and finally small sprocket.

2 13 1/2" 25" 32"
3 7 1/2" 9" 17"
4 2 1/2" 8 1/2" 12 1/2" the low wheel slightly less.

And for plates they are measured in 64" with the length first then width oand finally thickness of cell. From what I am finding and this is out of the Deere plate bookPC-268 the plate that is needed is Y 3352 B Small sweet corn 36 - 10 - 20 or possibly this Y 2637 B small corn 36 - 12 - 20 or Y 4664 B small crosby sweet corn, extra small corn 28 - 12 - 20 or Y 2636 B extra small corn 32 - 11 - 20 or finally Y 5519 B small round pointed corn 34 - 14 - 20, There are only a total of 15 different plates in 16 cell for that planter. And what was graded as a medium is now graded as a large kernal. The disk openers were an option that I have never seen that I remember as with clean working to garden finess they were not needed, the disk was more for trashy soil conditions as it would cut thru the trash instead of making the runner push thru and pile up the trash.

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Leroy

04-03-2013 11:04:55




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to notjustair, 04-03-2013 08:21:13  
I found the plate number they should use, will post settings and numbers later



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Mike Aylward

04-03-2013 13:14:19




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to Leroy, 04-03-2013 11:04:55  
If I remember right, don't the 999 and earlier planters use the "Y" series plate with the center hub in them, as opposed to the later "H" series without the center hub? Mike



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Leroy

04-03-2013 15:05:02




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to Mike Aylward, 04-03-2013 13:14:19  
Yes and in the John Deere plate book PC-268 it gives all the plates and what they are for and the cell sizes. That planter I think could be converted over for the newer plates using parts fron a 290.



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Leroy

04-03-2013 04:59:59




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to notjustair, 04-02-2013 18:21:28  
The 919 planter is a drill only planter while the 999 is a check wire planter so perhaps that will help identify the model. Now for the distance something has to not be set up correctly as those planters when drilling back in the years they were new the normal seed spacing would have been around 20" metween seeds and that is with a 16 cell plate. And the plates would be a cast steel, not a pot medal as those were not used on machinery from that time. Is that only a parts book or a operaters manual? An operators manual will tell you how to get those settings. Also I suspect she is not using the correct plates and they are dropping 2 or 3 kernals at a time. I do have some books that I could possibly find the settings in if you have the time for me to find them. It would help if you could get the diameter of the press wheels as they made a low wheel and also a high wheel model and then get the numbers off all the plates and I can tell you the cell size of every one and what they are for. I know that planter with the proper settings and plates would put the seed twice as far apart as it should be planted.

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Paul

04-02-2013 19:18:25




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to notjustair, 04-02-2013 18:21:28  
Welding seems to be a waste.

Adjusting the transmission - the gears - is the right way. Typically there are 2 places to change speeds, and you get a lot of possibilities. Have you worked that all out?

Otherwise, I'd use putty or epoxy or some such to fill every other hole, can burn the junk out again when you find out that's not the right way to do this. ;)

Paul



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casecollectorsc

04-02-2013 18:44:45




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 Re: Planter questions in reply to notjustair, 04-02-2013 18:21:28  
Just thinking out loud but I wonder if you look in a 290 operators manual for the correct plate. Probably close to the same. I don't think welding would be a good idea because of distortion etc.



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