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unifarmor

12-07-2006 08:00:27




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I've been trying to find out about the white 2-155. I posted on the new tractor section as the instructions say 1980 and newer. Never had the opportunity to post in the new tractor forum before. Didn't do me much good either.
I did a search and found several people here who had mentioned that they had 2-155's so I thought I'd try this department.
Do you like your 2-155? Can you get parts for the Hercules engine? I'm looking at a 1882 2-155 MFWD, looks nice one owner 6,000hrs. Salesman would really like me to buy it. I'm not so shure. I already know about hard to find AGCO parts. My main tractors are an MM G1355 and G1000 vista.
I'm looking at the White as I need front wheel assist. Either that or I need to update the hydraulic system on the old G706 so it will lift the Great Plains drill...
Or Should a Moline fanatic buy what is essentially an Oliver? Or is a White okay since we are all in the same family now?

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unifarmor

12-07-2006 22:13:02




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 08:00:27  
davpal just brought up my other question. A friend of mine has been trying to sell me a very nice 4-210 for a very good price.
Here is my other issue. I'm in Oregon. We don't have a large farm. I have a custom no-till planting business. We do some custom hay and we chop silage, couple hundred acres. I spend a lot of time on the highway pulling a 15ft drill. We are pretty close to Portland so half the drivers are insane. It seems like a big 4wd would be hard to drive on the road. I've moved a Stieger before and it was a bit hairy. If I did all my work on my own farm I'd buy the 4-210 in a second. I don't know how it would work on a pull type chopper (NH 890) but I'd give that a try. I'd also like to have a tractor I could mow or bale with. Hesston 1340 mower/three-tie baler.
A lot of my planting is back and forth so I think a big 4wd would tear up the ground more.
So, I've been looking at the MFWD tractors. I've heard Whites handle better than other 4wd. I don't really know much about them and I'm way other here on the other side of the country. But, the 4-210 seems like a really good deal.

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unifarmor

12-09-2006 00:03:56




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 22:13:02  
You folks bring up some good points in favor of the 4-210. I planted for the neighbor today. Just about buried the old MM 1355. I think the big wheels and extra hp would have done very well today. Of course these are not normal planting conditions.
I guess I'll see how things work out. Try and get the best deal!



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kkiowa

12-08-2006 10:36:30




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 22:13:02  
All right, there is more to your story I guess. I currently have a 4-210, a 2-155, a 4-150, a 2150 and a few other old olivers. I also worked at three different white dealers along the way, so i do have some thoughts about your questions. A 4-210 or a 4-175 have alot better handling caracteristics than a 4-150 because of the articulation joint, so they are higher priced than a 4-150/4-180. The 4-210 is made of 2 2-155 rear end as the 4-175 is 2-105 rears, hence no wet brakes. They both handle good down the road.

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davpal

12-07-2006 23:43:58




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 22:13:02  
The 4-210 would be a great choice. They go down the road fine and really don't take up any more width on the highway than a 2wd would take up. I have driven both down the highway and they are both huge and about the same experience. They handle just fine once you get used to the articulated steering. For planting, I think it would be fine. They float about the same or more than 2-155. 210 will weigh in about 22,000 lbs, 2-155 with fwa will come in about 15,500. If you can get a good deal on it you really have nothing to lose. Buy it, try it, and if you don't like it sell it and go for the 2-155 or 185. It can be an experiement for a year. I actually will think you will like it a whole lot and not want to give it up. Those articulated tractors are capable of amazing pulling power, and can be quite nimble in their own way. Baling or mowing with it should work ok too. You could idle it right down and just plug along on any of those implements. Good luck.

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unifarmor

12-07-2006 21:30:00




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 08:00:27  
Well, I guess there is always more to a story.
I've found a 185 white in the next state. It has 6000 hours, is a 1990, fair tires, MFWD. The 2-155 is at a nearby New Holland dealer. It looks good, is a 1982, 6000 hrs MFWD, fair tires, dealer wants $17,500. White 185 is $3,000 more plus hauling.
Advantage of the 2-155 is I can talk to former owner, it is local, can have mechanic look at engine, and I can almost afford it. Plus, I might talk them down a bit.
The 185 is what I want but it is a long ways away and I know nothing of its history. Anyway, I'm going to look at the 185 in the next week or so. I guess I'll know more then. Really I guess I'm just wondering if the 155 is an alternative or not.

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davpal

12-07-2006 21:29:58




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 08:00:27  
I used a 2-155 a lot and it had a lot of power and weight and was quiet. I liked it but I would ask why buy one when you can get a 4-175 or 4-210 or even a 4-180 for the same if not even much lower price? They all pull stronger than a 2-155, they do much better in all conditions, and the hydraulics will be the same as the 2-155. They can drag a huge planter around and turn very sharp on the ends. The steering is effortless and you never have to worry about using brakes. Also there are a lot of replacement 3208 motors around if you need one and a lot cheaper than the hercules can be bought or rebuilt. There is a beautiful 4-210 with nice paint, interior, spaced out duals that look great at Randall and Sons in Holgate Ohio right now. They are asking around $11,500 I think. It would at least be worth a look on the net. Their number is (419)395-1764 .

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unifarmor

12-07-2006 19:15:54




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 08:00:27  
Thanks for the info. Of course the question is just how hard on fuel is it? My 1355 moline is rated at around 140hp. Although, I've been told by several people that they have more hp if you put one on a dyno. It takes 75 gallons in 8-9 hrs of silage chopping. Pulling my Great Plains 1500 no-till drill at 6.5 mph/1800 rpm I use just under a gallon per acre. I'd consider that fairly thirsty when under a good load.
I was looking for a 185 white as it has the cummins engine. But, I saw the 2-155 local and the dealer says he really wants to sell it. I've found a 185 for $3000 more, 10 years newer same number of hours, but will take $2,000 to get it delivered as it is in another state. So, I'll have to do some thinking about this.
Ran my 1355 today. I'd just keep running it if it didn't have like 10,000hrs on it and had front wheel assist...Sort of a time bomb I suppose.

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kkiowaq

12-07-2006 19:45:53




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 19:15:54  
As much as I like the old hercs,for $3000 I'd go with the 185. More horse, more fuel effcient,and a very common and reliable engine. I know of several 135/155 that were repowered with cummins engines because of overhaul costs of the hercules. Also the cummins will be a longer life engine. Most of the 185's I've seen are 10000 or higher than a 2-155.



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tim[in]

12-07-2006 11:18:50




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 08:00:27  
i drove one for about 12 years. think we had a little hydraulic prob once and a front spindle break because a foriegn piece of metal had been dropped in at casting. plus had trouble with the door latches. but other than that was pretty much trouble free.



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bradk

12-07-2006 10:32:35




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 08:00:27  
We have a 2-155 series 3 and we love it.
Yes a little hard on fuel,but pulls hard.I'd almost guarantee that it's been overhauled already with that many hrs on it.
Don't worry about finding parts for it at all.Between AGCO and aftermarkets,you're covered.
~brad



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kkiowa

12-07-2006 09:50:07




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 08:00:27  
I have a 2-155 ,great tractor, aliitle hard on fuel at full hp, but a real horse. The rear ends and transmissions are very good, the herc can be a little pricey to overhaul. I've had no problems getting parts from Agco, if the dealer was always a White/Oliver dealer. I got a overhaul kit from my dealer for my 2150 (478 hercules) a few years ago. It wasn't cheap but what is anymore.



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spitz

12-07-2006 09:11:51




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 Re: white 2-155 in reply to unifarmor, 12-07-2006 08:00:27  
We loved our 2-135 (same as 155). I would watch the hours though. 6000 is a lot for a hercules. We overhauled our 135 at about 4500 hours. Good pull!



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