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Gleaner Vs John Deere

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AlfromIA

07-28-2005 20:14:48




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So which is the better brand, I hear these two being compared all the time about who makes the better machine whether it is Deere or Gleaner. What do you guys think! Who is For John Deere and who is for Gleaner?




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big orange

08-02-2005 10:10:50




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 Re: Gleaner Vs John Deere in reply to AlfromIA, 07-28-2005 20:14:48  
Compare a 9000 series Deere to a 1972 Gleaner and you will see who had the best combine.



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200wd45

07-30-2005 20:41:20




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 Re: Gleaner Vs John Deere in reply to AlfromIA, 07-28-2005 20:14:48  
As an AC fan, I hate to, but I have to give the nod to John Deere, based on my experience. My dad had Gleaners (A, C2, G, L2), and one Deere (7720). I barely remember the C2, but remember the G and L2 very well. 2 things stand out about the 7720 over the Gleaners; 1-as soon as the slightest bit of dew appeared in soybeans or wheat, you were done for the day with the Gleaners, as they would plug up big time just inside the front of the machine, while the 7720 would just keep going (I don"t think it ever plugged). 2-John Deere corn head is far superior over a Gleaner; the Gleaner heads had a problem with flipping ears onto the ground, which was a problem we never had with the 7720. More recently, the custom operator who harvests my dad"s crops had, up until last year a Gleaner R-series and it had the same issue with it"s head, as well. Plusses for the Gleaner, as I think was previously mentioned, they were easier to work on and maintain, and we always felt that the Gleaners did just a little bit better job in wheat than the 7720.

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Burnie

07-30-2005 05:22:06




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 Re: Gleaner Vs John Deere in reply to AlfromIA, 07-28-2005 20:14:48  
I'm with Larry. In the late 80's I worked in a harvest crew in northern New South Wales (Australia) wheat country. Had a L2 & JD8820. JD ran rings around L2. Gleaners are OK if you keep them new but JD just keep going. I'm more of a Red man anyway. Nothing better for sorghum, beans & sunflowers.



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JD 5020 guy

07-29-2005 06:35:38




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 Re: Gleaner Vs John Deere in reply to AlfromIA, 07-28-2005 20:14:48  
Like the other guy said both are about equal. Both get the job done or there wouldn't have been any around. For reliability, its hard to beat the late JD 00 series and 20 series. We have a JD 8820 and it has 3,800 hrs. It just keeps going and going. I worked on a Gleaner L and was not impressed by what I saw. But obviously they were good combines because most custom cutters came with them and Gleaner was somewhat popular around here until the N series fiasco. One thing I liked about the Gleaners was the centered cab and engine behind the grain tank.

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paul

07-28-2005 21:21:23




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 Re: Gleaner Vs John Deere in reply to AlfromIA, 07-28-2005 20:14:48  
Assuming machines of the 70s or so, I see them different but equal. The JD is a bit sturdier, but everything wears out & becomes a bear to try to repair. The Gleaner is simpler to work on & keep running as age catches up with it.

Give me a new one with zero hours, & the JD will look good just for the resale value.

Give me one with 2500 hours on it, & I want the Gleaner, as I'll be able to keep it running.

Well, they don't make new ones any more of this style, so I'll take the Gleaner. :) :)
--->Paul

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Larry806

07-29-2005 16:15:03




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 Re: Gleaner Vs John Deere in reply to paul, 07-28-2005 21:21:23  
Paul I'm just the opposite You couldn't run fast enough to give me another gleaner ever again!. I had a G that wouldn't run 2 days in a row with out working on it. I let the dealer talk me in to a new L2 That was the biggest pile of Shutt ever put on wheels it never ran a full day. I got mad & traded it on a 5 year old JD 7700. I've had 5 7700's since each one better than the last. The one I'm running now has way over 6000 hours I'll put it up against any gleaner any time for dependability. I have a 8820 with almost 6000 hours. Couple years ago we got on a big job working with a year old R62 and a new R52 The gleaner dealer brought a new R62 out for area farmers to see & ride in. After 2 hours they told the owner my " Old " 8820 had to leave or they were taking the new 62 out of there. My wore out JD made all the gleaners look to bad. Every combine of every make needs maintained & up keep You keep up a 00 or 20 series Deere and they will out run everything else I've saw. Now the newer JD's I think cost to much to keep in the field with high hours
We do a lot of custom combining & there's nothing I like better than to see a neighbor buy a gleaner that means future business when he's broke down

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pbutler

07-31-2005 05:15:07




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 High Hour Deere in reply to Larry806, 07-29-2005 16:15:03  
I'm not going to jump into the fray on the Silver vs. Green thing-I think they have both made good and bad models-I do agree on the cost of keeping the new Deeres running is out the market for any smaller farmers. With only 250 acres I can't imagine ever moving beyond the 6620/7720 range.

But I am glad to see some high hour Deere stories out there. I just bought a 7700 with just under 5,000 hours on it. It has had a lot of modifications and appears to be in excellent shape-but with those hours on any combine you get a little nervous.

Engine has never been touched but starts like a champ without ether-even in cold weather-no blowby. I woudn't have believed it without seeing the machine in person. I did have to do the usual and replace several belts and 1 set of final drive bearings but from the looks of all else I am hoping to get anohter 1-2k hours out of it.

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NutsaboutCombines

08-06-2005 16:01:39




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 Re: High Hour Deere in reply to pbutler, 07-31-2005 05:15:07  
I have to agree with Pbutler. Paul, I'm sorry you have had such bad luck with Gleaners. I've been around them for some 35 years and have not experienced or witnessed any serious trouble with them as a whole, save for the first N-Series and of course, the first L's. good luck with the older John Deeres. Like Pbutler, I love to hear stories of older John Deeres as well as other makes. I have seen 8820's with 10-13,000 hours. The 4,000-houred 7700 I saw in north Illinois was worn out only because it had spent its entire life in continous corn. yes, corn-only and no soybeans, as odd as it seems. Keep running the older machines because in many ways, they have qualities far surpassing the newest ones.

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