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Zero Turn LawnmowersDixon, Encore, andFerris

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BAW

12-11-2006 17:19:55




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Does anyone out there know anything good or bad about any of the Dixon, Encore,or Ferris Zero turn riding mowers. Thanks, BAW




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jerrycpp(WA)

12-15-2006 13:12:02




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 Re: Zero Turn LawnmowersDixon, Encore, andFerris in reply to BAW, 12-11-2006 17:19:55  
If you are looking for quality, and specially if you want it to pick up and haul the grass, take a look at the Walker. It is without doubt the finest zero-turn mower made. Very pricey, but worth every penny. Check out the Walker Mower website. No, I'm not a dealer. I own two of them.



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JT

12-16-2006 06:26:48




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 Re: Zero Turn LawnmowersDixon, Encore, andFerris in reply to jerrycpp(WA), 12-15-2006 13:12:02  
They are good machines, but from what a neighbor told me, he has put a lot of money in his 2 to keep them running over the last 7-8 years. He has put a lot of money in engines and gear boxes.



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jerrycpp(WA)

12-18-2006 17:10:40




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 Re: Zero Turn LawnmowersDixon, Encore, andFerris in reply to JT, 12-16-2006 06:26:48  
Mine have the 16 horse Kohler single cylinder. I've heard very good and very bad about these engines. I think the most important thing is to use the recommended oil - STRAIGHT GRADE 30. Using multigrade in any aircooled engine is risking overheating and the attendant problems. Since Walker engines are stuck in that hot hole, they need all the help they can get. Also, be certain the extended cooling shroud is in place - it helps move the hot air out of the engine compartment. Another possible problem spot is the air cleaner. Mine have a centrifigal intake thing that precleans the air before it gets to the air filter. I think the Walker is very particular that the maintenance be done according to the owner's manual.

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James Garfield

01-03-2007 19:54:57




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 Re: Zero Turn LawnmowersDixon, Encore, andFerris in reply to jerrycpp(WA), 12-18-2006 17:10:40  
RE: Using the straight 30W oil in air cooled mower engines. Yes, I've heard this too, and it makes sense. Multi-vis oils were developed for water-cooled car engines, which need to operate under a wide range of temperatures. Most mower engines (not counting snowblowers and such) don't usually get used much at temps below 40F, so multi-vis oil isn't needed. I'm in TX so we don't usually see super cold temps here, but I think 20W is used in snow conditions, right?

Air cooled engines run hotter than water cooled, so their internal clearances are looser, with the clearances tightening up as the engine reaches temperature. During these times, the viscosity enhancers in multi-vis oil will get by the rings and seats, increasing oil consumption and combustion chamber fouling. So yes, straight HD 30W is the way to go. Now tell me what you think of some treatment products like Slick50... Good / Bad... ?

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jerrycpp(WA)

01-04-2007 08:23:28




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 Re: Zero Turn LawnmowersDixon, Encore, andFerris in reply to James Garfield, 01-03-2007 19:54:57  
I have used Slick 50, and consider it a waste of money. I guess I'm not a good test subject, as I change oil regularly. I have a 1988 Mazda B-2200 pickup that has 268,000 and is still going strong. It uses about half a quart between 3000 mile changes. All it's ever had for oil is Chevron Multi-grade, 10-30 in winter, and 10-40 in summer. No additives. My '48 GMC got 275,000 out of a 235 Chev engine, and when I tore it down to replace a burned valve, the rings and bearings were still within tolerence. My air-cooled engines also just get straight oil, changed regularly.

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JT

12-12-2006 07:10:47




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 Re: Zero Turn LawnmowersDixon, Encore, andFerris in reply to BAW, 12-11-2006 17:19:55  
In a nut shell, look for a machine with a welded, fabricated deck, stamped decks will not hold up to the high speed bumping with a "Z".
Look for a machine that has individual pumps and wheel motors with hoses between them. They also make them with a hydro transaxle, but they do not hold up under the long term for durabily. I have looked at Encore to sell, was not impressed with the quality of cut, Dixons are cheaply made, Ferris has a lot of moving parts, but if they are the only three close to you, I would say the Ferris would be the better of the 3. If you have other choices, then find the dealer that you feel will give you the best service. There a litterly hundreds of "Z"s on the market and each have their points, good and bad. If you can find a unit with a guardian engine, they are one of the better ones in my opinion, but the manufacturers using that engine is few, but they are on Bobcat, Dixie Chopper, Encore, for sure, may be others. Good luck.

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ezyed

12-11-2006 17:32:18




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 Re: Zero Turn LawnmowersDixon, Encore, andFerris in reply to BAW, 12-11-2006 17:19:55  
goto lawnsite.com a comercial lawn mowing site . Lots of information. I use a toro zero turn and am happy with the machine, but the dealer makes for a great mower!! Ed



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