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1964 Super Dexta

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RossM, UK

03-15-2004 02:40:55

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I've just bought a 1964 Super Dexta to eventually restore. At the moment I am just going to run it around and use it to find its faults before restoration. I am having trouble getting the engine to turn over fast enough to start it. The person i bought it off started it with a very big battery what size battery should i have and what is the code? Also he started using ether (bad I know). One other thing it was smoking a little from the breather pipe on the right hand side of the block, is this bad. Not too worried if a full engine rebuild is need cause i did get it quite cheap. If I do need to rebuild the engine what parts are the most important to change?


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03-15-2004 17:20:35

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 Re: 1964 Super Dexta in reply to RossM, UK, 03-15-2004 02:40:55  
Your tractor has a Perkins 153 engine. Massey Ferguson used the same in the late 35,50,135,150 and some newer models. It was also in the Allis Chalmers 160. Parts should be readily available from several sources. Get a sleeve set. It includes pistons, rings, wrist pins, snap rings for the wrist pins and sleeves. You can deal with the valves and bearings as needed.

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Steven B

03-15-2004 12:47:01

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 Re: 1964 Super Dexta in reply to RossM, UK, 03-15-2004 02:40:55  

The ether will have broken the piston rings, hence hard to start because of low compression and fumes from the breather.

You will at least need pistons, rings and big end bearings. Realy though, the full engine kits are quite cheap. It depends on your budget but I would give the engine a full re-build, espicialy as you say you bought the tractor cheap.

At the moment we are re-building a Super Major and Super Dexta engine, the Dexta also being a ether addict.

Steven B

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03-15-2004 14:28:12

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 Re: Re: 1964 Super Dexta in reply to Steven B, 03-15-2004 12:47:01  
Steven, i have always been curious as to how an engine can become "addicted" to ether..? is it not just masking more and more wear as time goes by, thus the engine would never start normally anyway??

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Steven B

03-15-2004 14:38:40

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 Re: Re: Re: 1964 Super Dexta in reply to sandymac, 03-15-2004 14:28:12  
Some engines are ok with ether, in fact the 6x and 6y Ford tractors were available with a factory ether start kit for extreme climates.

The Dexta engine on the other hand will break piston rings and even pistons due to the high combustion pressures caused by ether. If the engine becomes hard to start because of other issues, for example it needs new injectors, then fix the injectors. Once it gets a wiff of ether it will be like a crack addict. Fix the injectors and you still need that ether because you have destroyed the internals.

Bottom line ether and Dextas do not mix.


Steven B

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Tom in Cherrylog

03-30-2004 16:20:43

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1964 Super Dexta in reply to Steven B, 03-15-2004 14:38:40  
Steven B. is likely correct, still the old logger I bought mine from says he always uses a whiff of ether. But he also wasn't using the manfold heatercoil or squirt of diesel. Have you gotten the start speed up on yours? Once I did she'll start without ether. So I guess the rings aren't completely gone. Where are you getting your overhaul spares? A major engine rebuild seems a worthy project. Don't happen to have a spare proofmeter do you? Cheers

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RossM, UK

03-16-2004 00:11:34

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1964 Super Dexta in reply to Steven B, 03-15-2004 14:38:40  
Cheers guys, Its seems I've bought an addict! Looks like full engine rebuild it is. Probably not a bad thing. Means it'll be like new when i've done with it. Need to finish the fergie first though.

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