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2LiveHappy

09-25-2004 16:41:09




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I purchase a 4000 gas with SOS at an auction. I don"t have a manual for it and before using it much, I"d like to check the fluids. I"ve checked the engine oil and Power steering fluid but don"t know where to check the hydraulic fluid or the SOS (I think they are separate, right?) I"ve looked all over for another dip stick but can"t find it. I opened a large fill plug that is on the rear end case to the right rear of the seat and I can see down in there but how do I know what the level should be? I will get a manual but I don"t want to wait for them to arrive... Thanks!

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2LiveHappy

09-25-2004 17:07:44




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 Re: 4000 help in reply to 2LiveHappy, 09-25-2004 16:41:09  
OK, I kept reading the other posts and I figured out that to check the hydraulic fluid, I pull the squared plug behind the right footrest... I"ll do that tomorrow. Now I only need to know where to check and fill for the SOS.

Also, PTO problem: It engages smoothly but when the mower hits heavy grass, the PTO will slow or even stop. When the grass thins, it will pick speed back. Is this related to low fluids? (since I haven"t checked them yet)

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txblu

09-26-2004 08:18:58




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 Re: 4000 help in reply to 2LiveHappy, 09-25-2004 17:07:44  
I just went outside to get my manuals so that I can give you an accurate answer.

By making the remark about a slipping PTO under load, you marked the year model range to post '64.

My 65 and up operator's manual says that the S-O-S full mark is a pipe plug just beneath and slightly forward of the brake pedals. Says it is also the fill plug so good luck in getting fluid in there. Says check with tractor on level ground, engine off. Fluid is M2C41A which is one of the specs, most "tractor hydraulic/transmission" fluids meet today. Look on the back of the can for the specs which the fluid meets.

The PTO slipping could be fluid, worn PTO pump or worn clutches. The Independent PTO is very sophistocated as compared to to others (transmission, live) having a separate hydraulic pump, clutch discs, and stopping brake. (Per my '65-'75 Ford service manual).

My guess is that either the pump can't put out enough pressure to hold the clutch discs together under load, or they are worn and slip much like a transmission to engine clutch worn out. Low fluid is always a possibility. Says it uses the rear axle fluid.

Your fill for the rear axle/hyd section is on top of the rear housing behind and to the right of the seat. The full mark is a pipe plug on the rt side of the housing just behind (inboard of) the brake lock (finger pull up hotus to lock brakes) located on the rt running board. Full is when fluid runs out.

Fluid is M-2C53-A which should be another Ford spec on the container you used for the tranny.

Hope your pto is only low fluid.

Good luck,

Mark

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2LiveHappy

09-26-2004 15:12:33




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 Re: 4000 help in reply to txblu, 09-26-2004 08:18:58  
Thanks Mark. this is exactly the information I was needing. I'll check it out (and keep my fingers crossed that the fluid is just low)



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txblu

09-27-2004 05:50:06




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 Re: 4000 help in reply to 2LiveHappy, 09-26-2004 15:12:33  
Wish you luck, glad to help.

Mark



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