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ken in wisconsi

01-24-2005 06:57:59




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My 860 has sprung a radiator leak at the top, at the seam where the reservoir joins the radiator itself. I have been limping along plowing snow by making sure the coolant is up to that level, but I think I will have to remove the radiator this winter to have a shop re-solder it. How hard is it to remove the radiator on the 860? I don't have any idea if I should tackle this job in the snow.




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John in OH

01-30-2005 08:21:18




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 Re: 860 radiator removal in reply to ken in wisconsin, 01-24-2005 06:57:59  
I will agree that it may be a little easier with the whole hood off, but takes a lot longer. I have changed 1 860 and 2 861's by simply taking the grill off, taking the bottom dog legs off, loosening the top dog leg bolts, lift the whole assembly, prop up the assembly with a block of wood on both sdes of the gas tank. The dog legs will spread enough to get the radiator in and out. Be sure to replace rubber cushions on the bottom and use a new 4lb radiator cap. Do not use a 13lb Ford cap. You should also drain the block along with new antifreeze and replace the thermostat and gasket, because junk from the radiator usually gathers in the thermostat. If the block won't drain use a pick or small screwdriver to open it. Should also flush with fresh water before installing antifreeze. Hope this helps.

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Dean

01-24-2005 07:15:02




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 Re: 860 radiator removal in reply to ken in wisconsin, 01-24-2005 06:57:59  
It will not be too difficult if your hood has been off anytime in the recent past and the bolts at the rear can be easily removed. Once the hood is removed (or merely pivoted forward), the radiator can easily be removed. It is attached by 2 carriage bolts at the bottom. Upon installation, be sure to install the 2 rubber bumpers on either side of the tank at top that prevent the radiator from shaking from side to side. If you do not now have them, they are still available from NH.

Dean

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ken in wisconsin

01-24-2005 14:01:15




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 Re: 860 radiator removal in reply to Dean, 01-24-2005 07:15:02  
Dean,
When you speak of removing the hood, what do you mean? Are you speaking of the whole of the sheet metal, or just the "doglegs" part at the front. The radiator was off of the tractor about 7 years ago just before I bought it. In fact, the leak is in the same place. Thanks for a clarification on the hood.



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Dean

01-25-2005 06:05:47




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 Re: 860 radiator removal in reply to ken in wisconsin, 01-24-2005 14:01:15  
I have found it easier to remove the hood as an assembly. You will need someone to help lift it off as it is flimsy with the bolts removed. You will also need to disconnect the headlamp wiring.

The rubber bumpers should be in place to prevent the radiator and/or hood from vibrating against each other. They are available at NH.

Dean



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john in la

01-24-2005 18:10:30




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 Re: 860 radiator removal in reply to ken in wisconsin, 01-24-2005 14:01:15  
The whole hood needs to be swung out of the way.
The radiator will not fit through the grill or out the sides.

There is like 6 bolts that holds each side hood to the instrument panel and hood center/steering column cover. Take all of these out. Then on the bottom of each dog leg there is a bolt that holds the dogleg to the radiator support. Loosen these 2 bolts and swing the whole hood assy. up and forward. You will need a saw horse or large bucket to rest the hood on.
You can now remove radiator.

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john in la

01-24-2005 18:52:18




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 Re: 860 radiator removal in reply to john in la, 01-24-2005 18:10:30  
Now that I think about it some more the hood doglegs may hit the axle when trying to flip it like this. So you would need take the two dogleg bolts out and lift the whole hood off.



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Mike in OH

01-24-2005 13:52:58




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 Dean- I wonder if my 640.......... in reply to Dean, 01-24-2005 07:15:02  
is supposed to have the rubber bumpers at the top of the radiator like the 860. I replaced my radiator two years ago, but there weren't any bumpers on the original.????? ??



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Pernell

01-24-2005 15:50:49




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 Re: Dean- I wonder if my 640.......... in reply to Mike in OH, 01-24-2005 13:52:58  
They are supposed to have rubber pads on the sides to steady the hood. Are these the ones your referring to.



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Gary Puckett

01-24-2005 18:49:40




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 Re: Dean- I wonder if my 640.......... in reply to Pernell, 01-24-2005 15:50:49  
Would you be more specific about where they fit on the radiator? The top or the top of the side?
What do they look like?
Thanks



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Dean

01-25-2005 06:09:31




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 Re: Dean- I wonder if my 640.......... in reply to Gary Puckett, 01-24-2005 18:49:40  
The rubber pads fit between the radiator tank and the hood at the widest part of the tank, one on either side. It is an interference fit and they can be installed with both radiator and hood in place. They serve to prevent the radiator and hood from vibrating against each other and should be in place. They are still available at NH.



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