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Will

08-09-2004 05:54:58




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I have been putting it off for years but the time has come to reclutch my 860/861 (1959 by serial no.) Advice as to where I can get the dual clutch parts at a reasonable price?
Thanks Will




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Gil

08-10-2004 21:00:31




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 Re: 860 clutch in reply to Will, 08-09-2004 05:54:58  
Will, which do you have, an 860 or an 861?



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Will

08-11-2004 04:08:15




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 Re: 860 clutch in reply to Gil, 08-10-2004 21:00:31  
SN is 860 85488
I think the 85488 makes it a '59
Does this also make it an 861?
Or does it remain an 860?
Will



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Gil

08-11-2004 22:45:59




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 Re: 860 clutch in reply to Will, 08-11-2004 04:08:15  
Will, an 800 series tractor cannot be an 801 series tractor, and vise versa. Within the series there are models, for instance in the 800 series you may find 810, 820, 830, 840, 850, 860, etc. The same is true for the 801 series. Your 860 is an 860, nothing can change that. It can never be an 861. The differences between the two series is more than just production years. If the production years were the only difference then they would all be the same series. The 860 that is stamped on your tractor makes it an 860. I think I'm being redundant, and I'm trying not to be.

There are horsepower differences, and even available options differences, fluid capacity differences, and compression ratio differences. Though there are many similarities, they are quited different.

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Will

08-13-2004 04:13:51




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 Re: 860 clutch in reply to Gil, 08-11-2004 22:45:59  
Not redundant at all Gil, I appreciate your input. I was always confused over the difference between the two and knowing exactly what she is would make parts id much simpler. The 860 and I are growing old together, I bought her about 1971 freshly rebuilt, repainted, even new hoofies on her. Is time for me to make up for too many years of neglect.
Will



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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

08-11-2004 08:47:24




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 Re: 860 clutch in reply to Will, 08-11-2004 04:08:15  
860
85488
Would be a 1956. When Ford started the '01' series, in '57, they started over (with 1001) with their serial numbers.

861
85488
Would be a 1959 861...

HTH
Steve



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MarkB

08-09-2004 18:38:26




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 Re: 860 clutch in reply to Will, 08-09-2004 05:54:58  
The consensus is that the aftermarket remanufactured clutches are a gamble. Someone awhile back even went so far to say that you should have new FNH clutches checked out and adjusted before installing; that seems a little extreme to me.

I'd call every New Holland dealer within a hundred miles or so and see who will give me the best price on a new clutch. Or at least that's my plan when my clutch gives up.

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Jim.UT

08-09-2004 10:28:19




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 Re: 860 clutch in reply to Will, 08-09-2004 05:54:58  
I've never done that job so I can't really say anything with any authority, but I've read on this board where Tony Jacobs (who works on a lot of Ford tractors) has decided never to buy any dual clutch from anyone but the dealer. Apparently he's had too many clutch jobs that have had to be done again when using generic parts, but never a problem with the costlier FNH dealer parts. Something to think about.

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awhtx

08-09-2004 14:55:30




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 Re: 860 clutch in reply to Jim.UT, 08-09-2004 10:28:19  
My NH dealer gets over $800 for a brand new dual clutch assembly. Walt's Tractor Parts advertises the clutch assembly, pilot bearing and throwout bearing for $455 (I don't know if it's new aftermarket or rebuilt). Check with your local tractor repair shop and see what they can get for you.



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