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Replacing a head gasket - couple of questions.

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Toora Stephen

03-05-2008 17:40:46




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OK, my tractor (a TED20) will no longer run with the amount of water in the engine, so it's time for the operation.

Scanning my manual I notice a few things that I am not sure about.

It mentions a tool "service wrench FTB2" to remove the manifold nuts. Do I need this, or can I use standard tools?

Do I need sleeve retainers for the cylinder head studs?

- TS




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Toora Stephen

03-10-2008 14:43:13




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 Re: Replacing a head gasket - couple of questions. in reply to Dan S (NY), 03-05-2008 17:40:46  
Thanks for the advice and replies. I manged to replace the gasket without any major issues. The engine started first go and ran as well as it ever has.

After a couple of hours though, I noticed a small amount of water coming out of the exhaust pipe. I now suspect my problems may be as alluded to by John (UK):


John (UK) said: (quoted from post at 05:13:02 03/09/08) You can remove the manifold with regular tools although it is easier with the special tool. Do not attempt to turn the engine unless the liners are clamped in place or they may move and damage the gaskets underneath and that is a major operation to replace them. Before you re-fit the Head you need to make sure that the Cylinder Liners stand proud of the Block by .005" to .011" or the Head gasket will leak into the water jacket or it may blow the Head gasket between cylinders.


When I took out the old gasket, it had obviously been replaced not too long ago. It didn't look much older than the one I put in, but was slightly damaged. Perhaps whoever did that job messed it up and so one of the problems that John refers to above occurred.

So I guess I now need to know more about these "gaskets underneath" and how to go about assessing or replacing them.

Then again, it may be too early to jump to that conclusion, so I'll keep an eye on it for a while first. After how long should I recheck the torque on the head bolts?

- TS

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Bob (Aust)

03-09-2008 00:00:11




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 Re: Replacing a head gasket - couple of questions. in reply to Toora Stephen, 03-05-2008 17:40:46  
John.
Welcome back! Great to see you back in the forum! Hope you are both well.

Bob in Oz



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John (UK)

03-08-2008 10:13:02




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 Re: Replacing a head gasket - couple of questions. in reply to Toora Stephen, 03-05-2008 17:40:46  
You can remove the manifold with regular tools although it is easier with the special tool. Do not attempt to turn the engine unless the liners are clamped in place or they may move and damage the gaskets underneath and that is a major operation to replace them. Before you re-fit the Head you need to make sure that the Cylinder Liners stand proud of the Block by .005" to .011" or the Head gasket will leak into the water jacket or it may blow the Head gasket between cylinders.

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Bill Brox

03-06-2008 07:59:41




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 Re: Replacing a head gasket - couple of questions. in reply to Toora Stephen, 03-05-2008 17:40:46  
Hello,

Yes, I would strongly advice you to use sleeve retainers which can be made of a large round or square washer and then cut an 1/2" iron pipe, put a small washer on top and a nut. This way you do not have to worry about the sleeves getting loose when you crank the engine.

The manifold is a piece of cake, use regular tools for it. Of course, the nuts can be stuck, but that is a different matter.


Bill

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Bob (Aust)

03-06-2008 01:06:54




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 Re: Replacing a head gasket - couple of questions. in reply to Toora Stephen, 03-05-2008 17:40:46  
Had a look at my Standard engine.
Remove the exhaust pipe and elbow (if you have a vertical exhaust) and carby and you should get all the manifold nuts with a socket and open ended spanner.

Being a low compression engine, you may also need to remove the heat shield required for TVO fuel use.

Take care - there is a fair chance you may break one of the studs if they are rusted and worn.

I replaced some of my studs and used brass nuts, although not everyone agrees on brass nuts on the manifold, exhaust and carby.

Bob in Oz

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Jim in OH

03-05-2008 21:01:31




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 Re: Replacing a head gasket - couple of questions. in reply to Toora Stephen, 03-05-2008 17:40:46  
I am not familiar with these models... but this will bump it back to the top for an other look by our members.. In general, however, there are usually " homemade" methods that can accomplish the same thing... good luck Jim in OH



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