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Farmall 140 Manifold ..?????

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KRS_MED

05-07-2008 19:10:37




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The manifold on my 140 is in poor shape with holes in it. I bought a used one in great shape off Ebay. It appears to be the same as the one I took off the 140 except there is splits between the bolts like the ones on a Super A. Every thing matches up as far as bolt holes aliment. But the exhaust and intake holes are slightly larger on the one I took off. Can anyone tell me if this will work are is this a Super A manifold and I need to purchase a new one? Like I said all matches up except for the internal diameter of the intake and exhaust holes. Oh also the the length of the pipe were the carb mounts is a little long on the new one.

1967 Farmall 140 according to the serial number

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Keith

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KRS_MED

05-08-2008 20:03:09




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 Re: I knew I should have gone to shop first in reply to KRS_MED, 05-07-2008 19:10:37  
Hugh,

Thanks very much for the info. That what i had expected when i finally removed the manifold. Looking at it very close I'm sure that it will work just not sure at what cost of engine performance. I have been thinking about trying it open the ports up some, but I still want be able to do it all the way thou. So it may not be worth the trouble. My Grandfather passed away last night so my uncle and I have been making all the arrangements today. So I want get to it several more days.
He taught me so much, I feel like I have lost a friend, father, best friend, buddy, and brother all at one time. Spent last weekend getting he's Super A going and putting on sweeps to work he's garden. He always had quit a large garden and shared so much of it with anyone that he knew, and those he didn't also. The last good conversation we had was Monday. He wanted to make very sure that i sprayed the 18 rows of potatoes with liquid seven for bugs. Really feel that he was at peace when he realized that they were done properly.

Thank Very Hugh for all the information you have always been very giving with to myself an many others!

Keith

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Hugh MacKay

05-09-2008 02:34:06




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 Re: I knew I should have gone to shop first in reply to KRS_MED, 05-08-2008 20:03:09  
Keith: So sorry to hear of your grandfathers passing. My condolences go out to you and yours. I'd be like that, too stubborn to die until I knew the potatoes were sprayed.



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Hugh MacKay

05-08-2008 03:38:26




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 Re: I knew I should have gone to shop first in reply to KRS_MED, 05-07-2008 19:10:37  
Keith: Your right Super A is the manifold with longer neck to the carb. Another difference you'll notice is distance between intake and exhaust portions of manifold. Super A is very short between the two. 130 and 140 have a rounded globe between intake and exhaust. Another difference is top of manifold in relation to top of head, about same on SA, whereas 130 and 140 top of manifold is below top of head by about 1". And yes, the 130 and 140 are one piece where bolted to head wheras SA is as you describe for the one you bought.

The larger intake will move more air, thus the reason for it on C-123 engines. I know this from the days when I had a rain cap SA would only blow it open 75% at full throttle, while 130 would hold it open full even at half throttle. Now a days the 130 and 140 blow the soup can much higher than the Super A, I know, I looked up once to see where the can went, only to have it hit me on the nose. There definitely is more air volume going through the C-123 system. How much that will affect your tractors power, not sure. While I say all of this, my SA is still C-113 and will give both 130 and 140 a hard run on a drawbar pull.

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Hugh MacKay

05-08-2008 02:57:55




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 Re: Farmall 140 Manifold ..????? in reply to KRS_MED, 05-07-2008 19:10:37  
Keith: Not sure what you've bought, but I don't think it is Super A manifold. Super A has a shorter neck where carb bolts on than 140 does. The 100 and 130 should be same length and could be smaller. I'm going to my shop shortly, and since I have 3 of those tractors, I also have a box of manifold to carb gaskets, etc. I'll look at what I have and report back.



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