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Replacing F20 felts

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Scott in SC

04-09-2008 07:42:13




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Hi,

I’m going to try to dry up a leak or two in the old F20 by replacing the countershaft felts and the felts at the brake drum. Anyone know if these felts are assembled dry, soaked in oil or what?

I’ve got an IT type manual and a parts book, but I don’t see information pertaining to replacing the felts.


Thanks,

Scott




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F-Dean

04-09-2008 08:39:03




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 Re: Replacing F20 felts in reply to Scott in SC, 04-09-2008 07:42:13  
I drilled a small hole in the bottom of the "housing" to let the oil escape. This seemed to solve the problem of oil getting on the brake pads. Also, you may want to try oil-tolerant brake linings like those used on a W-30.



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Scott in SC

04-09-2008 09:23:23




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 Re: Replacing F20 felts in reply to F-Dean, 04-09-2008 08:39:03  
Dean,

Are you talking about drilling a small hole in the "housing" the brake shoes are in (under the cover)? Am I correct that you have any oil that gets by the felts draining out on to the final drive?

Thanks,

Scott



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F-Dean

04-09-2008 14:50:16




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 Re: Replacing F20 felts in reply to Scott in SC, 04-09-2008 09:23:23  
Yes, I drilled a small hole in the bottom of the "Can" that encloses the brakes close to the frame. Yes, the small amount of oil that leaks does fall onto the final drive. However, this solved my problem of no brakes. Also, when I put a new brake on my W-30 (They do not have individual brakes for each wheel), I was amazed to learn that there is a brake lining make to work in oil.



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Nebraska Cowman

04-09-2008 07:54:07




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 Re: Replacing F20 felts in reply to Scott in SC, 04-09-2008 07:42:13  
I'd probably smear a little grease on them. They will get oil soaked soon enough.



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Ron Weber

04-09-2008 12:15:29




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 Re: Replacing F20 felts in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-09-2008 07:54:07  
First, I buy hard felt from a bearing company; it retains the seal better. Then, I put heavy grease on them before assembly so that they prevent oil from seaping through. After that, I make sure that they are packed tight around the shaft to help with the seal. Then, when I put new brake shoes on I cut shallow grooves on an angle towards the outside of the drum in a way that if the grease did get on the drum surface it would be moved out of the drum when the tractor is braked going forward. I use a dremel to cut in the grooves. Ihave had extremely good luck using this method over the years; never had a problem once I fixed it this way. Gook Luck!

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Scott in SC

04-10-2008 08:14:18




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 Re: Replacing F20 felts in reply to Ron Weber, 04-09-2008 12:15:29  
Thanks Guys; great info!

Scott



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