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Mark W.

03-25-2008 09:01:19




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Will a 340 gas utility have enough power to run a 9 foot haybine and an IH baler w/ thrower. No major hills covering about 10 acres. I am not sure of the baler model but I believe it is from the early 70's.




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Carl Oh

03-25-2008 18:01:39




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 Re: How much Power?? in reply to Mark W., 03-25-2008 09:01:19  
I dont know about the 340 BUT I spent many a day on a Cockshutt 30 pulling a NH 66 and a wagon and it was only 30 H/P so Im thinking you should be ok just my 2cents



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RAW in IA

03-25-2008 15:19:53




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 Re: How much Power?? in reply to Mark W., 03-25-2008 09:01:19  
We used to bale with a Farmal C and IH 45 baler, loading on wagon. Didn't use it often but when the 350 was busy we would. Ground was gently rolling, no steep hills.



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Hugh MacKay

03-25-2008 13:59:20




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 Re: How much Power?? in reply to Mark W., 03-25-2008 09:01:19  
Mark: 9' haybine will tax the 340 to it's limit, however it sounds like your not cutting 30 acres per day.

60% of all the hay ever baled across North America has been done by tractors with 25 to 30 hp. If you have level ground and the baler is pre 1970 New Holland with thrower, you'll have no problem with the 340. I've baled the ocasional load pulling wagon and using thrower on a NH Super 69 pulled by my Farmall 130. I don't recommend it but it was better than waiting until my 300 or 656 were finished with silage. It was hay that got too dry for silage, so rather than pull the other tractors, and make my problem worse, I baled it with 130.

I had a neighbor down the road, 7 months stored feeding of hay for 160 holsteins, probably 300 ton of hay and the heaviest tractor he owned was a 340. He dropped all his bales on the ground. It was all mowed with 7' mowers. And that was new for 1958. until that time he used a fleet of 100, 130, CS, 200, 230, etc. His 75 year old dad ran the baler and had one speed, FASTER.

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karl f

03-25-2008 13:56:42




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 Re: How much Power?? in reply to Mark W., 03-25-2008 09:01:19  
nearly the same engine (C-153 vs C-135) was used in IH's self propelled windrowers in 10, 12, 14+ foot witdths, plus conditioning rolls. at 10 and 12 foot sometimes you run out of power and conditioning capacity with those machines, the conditioner is only 4 foot wide. so it can be done, just very slow in thick tall stuff, or any mature bull thistles and it's over.
the plus side is a NH HaybineŽ has very wide conditioning rolls so you should not have to stop for slugs or plugs as often.
we skipped from the self propelled to a DiscbineŽ a few years ago and haven't looked back since. you will need at least a 656. a 706+ is better or a lighter higher powered other make (ford 7710 for example). nothin like cutting in 3rd gear on the 656 and stopping only to refil the fuel, eat, or replace a knife when you find a rock or fence post. compared to replacing guards and sections or untangling reels every 50 feet the discmower is a miracle. we do 200 acres of hay a year, so your needs might be met just fine with your 340 and a HaybineŽ

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Steven f/AZ

03-25-2008 12:42:53




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 Re: How much Power?? in reply to Mark W., 03-25-2008 09:01:19  
You may not break any speed records, but it will work.



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dej(jed)

03-25-2008 09:39:40




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 Re: How much Power?? in reply to Mark W., 03-25-2008 09:01:19  
I wouldn't think that it could handle a 9 foot haybine in heavy hay. It should handle the baler on flat ground.



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old

03-25-2008 09:31:20




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 Re: How much Power?? in reply to Mark W., 03-25-2008 09:01:19  
I have a friend that has a 340 and we found it just had enough power to run his AC 9 foot MOCO. Now a baler might be pushing it a little hard. A 340 is around 33HP give or take a few. But then on the other hand I have heard of people pulling balers with an 8N ford and an 8N is only 23HP. So if you had a baler like a JD14T it would but thats it I would not pull a wagon behind the baler

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