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first position on light control on H

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Canadian Ken

11-20-2007 21:28:47




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Why is there a 1st position on my neighbour's H that is right of the O or off. If the switch is sitting here the amp meter shows no charge, and if the knob is on O it charges good. Why have the first position, or is the switch faulty?
Ken




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mkirsch

11-23-2007 06:21:48




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 Re: first position on light control on H in reply to tackhammertime, 11-20-2007 21:28:47  
Yup, somebody used the wrong decal. At least they were thorough enough to align the decal so that it told the "truth" about the headlights.



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Canadian Ken

11-22-2007 21:05:44




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 Re: first position on light control on H in reply to Canadian Ken, 11-20-2007 21:28:47  
Thanks for the replies. That explains it perfectly. The tractor has been repainted and must have a decal for a 1950+ tractor - O D B on the light switch.
Ken



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Janicholson

11-21-2007 06:27:58




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 Re: first position on light control on H in reply to Canadian Ken, 11-20-2007 21:28:47  
I'm adding to Bob Ms good advice.
If it is a 3 position switch, and the H has a regulator on it, (either from the factory, or retro fitted) the switch is lights only and the first position is for dim headlights and full rear lights. The far right position just puts the headlights on bright, leaving the rear bright. It can have an affect on the charge, only by loading the system with the lights.
If it is a four position, it is as Bob indicates.
If it it does not charge in the H position (first click clockwise from being full counterclockwise) then it may be wired wrong.
In the first position (Full CCW), the field wire from the small terminal on the generator is attached to a wire wound resistor on the back of the switch, the other end of this resistor is attached to the switch terminal that (when in that position) is grounded to the light box.
This allows partial grounding of the field, which turns on the field enough to charge at a low charge rate.
The turning of the switch to the right one click bypasses this resistor, fully grounding the field. If nothing happens at this setting the wiring is either misconnected, or the switch is faulty internally.
With it running, at medium speed (and having shown a charge when in the first position) then, with the switch set in that second (non-working) position, use a jumper wire to ground the field terminal at the generator. With this grounded, the generator should now charge (usuallly 8 amps to 12 amps or so) If this happens, the wiring or switch is at fault, as this is what it is supposed to be showing on the meter.
Good luck, and keep us informed either to continue, or to let us know it got fixed. JimN

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Bob M

11-21-2007 04:41:54




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 Re: first position on light control on H in reply to Canadian Ken, 11-20-2007 21:28:47  
Ken - That knob is a combination generator output control and light switch. It has (4) positions: L, H, D and B (Low, High, Dim and Bright)

L and H select low charge and high generator output (charge rate) respectively. Lights are off in both L and H.

D and B select dim lights and bright headlights. Generator is set to high output in both D and B positions.

Make sense now??



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GeneMO

11-21-2007 09:03:34




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 Re: first position on light control on H in reply to Bob M, 11-21-2007 04:41:54  
Bob is that a factory set up? We have an old M that that the low and high charge settings.


Thanks, Gene



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Bob M

11-21-2007 09:41:38




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 Re: first position on light control on H in reply to GeneMO, 11-21-2007 09:03:34  
Yeah Gene - the L-H-D-B light switch setup is factory original. It was used until voltage regulators began being applied (ca 1949 or 1950?) which relieved the operator from responsibility for battery charge control.

Incidentally regulator-equipped tractors have only a 3-position switch knob: O(ff), D(im) and B(right)



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