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What is a single front wheel worth?

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Mike CA

08-13-2007 08:47:04

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I may have found a double narrow front bolster and wheels for my H from a local guy. I have to go look at it this upcoming weekend to make sure. But anyway, once I take off my tricycle wheel, I'd want to turn it into restoration money.
So, what do you think a 10" front wheel with bolster and good tire are worth?

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John A.

08-13-2007 18:22:49

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Mike CA, 08-13-2007 08:47:04

Mike, Here in Central Texas....$20 to $50 all day long!!! You give over $50 bucks, then somebody SAW You Coming!, You were a stranger and You got tooook in! Unless you can drive to it in an hour No, NO, No! Hopes this helps.
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John A.

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Mike CA

08-13-2007 17:46:20

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Mike CA, 08-13-2007 08:47:04

Allan,
I don't mean to argue, but I have seen probably 4 or 5 of these H's around this area in various degrees of repair, having this particular type of front wheel on them. My website is offline right now (server problem) or I could show you that other '44 with the stuck engine that had it. I've also see a couple in the field.

Maybe they were popular in this area because of the powdery light soil we have. I don't know. I just know what I've seen.

Regardless, I agree that it just doesn't look right, and that's why I want the double narrow front.

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GA Dave

08-13-2007 17:23:43

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Mike CA, 08-13-2007 08:47:04

I went to caseih catalog and all they show for the H is 16". David.

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Allan in NE

08-13-2007 17:36:19

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to GA Dave, 08-13-2007 17:23:43

GA Dave said: (quoted from post at 17:23:43 08/13/07) I went to caseih catalog and all they show for the H is 16". David.

A lot of guys would put that little 10 inch cast iron wheel on their Hs tho because they liked that "fat" little tire. Dunno, maybe it gave the tractor more "footprint" or something?

We didn't like the looks of it when working in the irrigated row crops because it didn't give the tractor the extra 2" of lift in the frontend, which was needed to allow for the cultivator to clear the belly when raised.

Hard to explain, but one needed all the "shank" one could get to make that cultivator "plow/dig" correctly.

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Bob Kerr

08-13-2007 13:23:48

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Mike CA, 08-13-2007 08:47:04

I would say the single fronts don't bring much because tires that fit right are very hard to find. Oh they sell a 3 rib 7.50x10, but on my fork the outer ribs rubbed on the bolts that mount it to the bolster, because the tire is too tall.The original size 10" which I think is a 6.00x10 or 650x10 or 7.00 x10 (can't remember exactly)is no longer made and hasn't been for years and years. I ened up using an aircraft tire which makes turning in mud or wet grass an adventure. If your tire is really good, I wouldn't think a $150 would be out of line. The tire might be worth more than the fork!

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Mike CA

08-13-2007 14:07:01

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Bob Kerr, 08-13-2007 13:23:48

Bob Kerr said: (quoted from post at 13:23:48 08/13/07) I would say the single fronts don't bring much because tires that fit right are very hard to find. Oh they sell a 3 rib 7.50x10, but on my fork the outer ribs rubbed on the bolts that mount it to the bolster, because the tire is too tall.The original size 10" which I think is a 6.00x10 or 650x10 or 7.00 x10 (can't remember exactly)is no longer made and hasn't been for years and years. I ened up using an aircraft tire which makes turning in mud or wet grass an adventure. If your tire is really good, I wouldn't think a $150 would be out of line. The tire might be worth more than the fork!

I have Bob for $150. Do I hear $175?
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Bill Wineman

08-13-2007 10:46:11

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Mike CA, 08-13-2007 08:47:04

I was at a farm auction last Thursday and a single front for an H and one for a M, with near new tires had trouble bringing $15 each.

An H with single front,good tires, live power and a 3 point brought $2200. An M that ran good, fair tires, single front brought $1200.

Both needed paint but the sheet metal was all there and in good shape.

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Mike CA

08-13-2007 11:30:59

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Bill Wineman, 08-13-2007 10:46:11

Bill Wineman said: (quoted from post at 10:46:11 08/13/07) I was at a farm auction last Thursday and a single front for an H and one for a M, with near new tires had trouble bringing $15 each.

Wow! Not even worth the shipping!

Maybe I'll just give it to my Brother In Law.

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Mike CA

08-13-2007 09:33:14

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Mike CA, 08-13-2007 08:47:04

Actually Allen, around here they are called Trikes because Tricycle actually means 3 wheels, and they are more common than the double narrow fronts are. This I get from all the tractor guys I've been talking to in my local area. It may be different where you are from.

I've been told that the 10" was the standard front for the H, and they also had a 16" wheel, but around here, those were used for the cotton picking H's because they were taller. M's used a 20 inch wheel for the same reason.
So, maybe a lot of this info is regionally based. Too bad the wheel assembly isn't worth more though. Oh well.

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NIndianaDan

08-13-2007 09:31:35

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Mike CA, 08-13-2007 08:47:04

I might be interested in buying your bolster and wheel. Alot would depend on shipping from CA to 46619. I recently had a cream seperator shipped and it wasn't too bad. If you're interested, let me know when you have it off and can get a weight.
Thanks, Dan

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Mike CA

08-13-2007 09:40:23

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to NIndianaDan, 08-13-2007 09:31:35

NIndianaDan said: (quoted from post at 09:31:35 08/13/07) I might be interested in buying your bolster and wheel. Alot would depend on shipping from CA to 46619. I recently had a cream seperator shipped and it wasn't too bad. If you're interested, let me know when you have it off and can get a weight.

Thanks, Dan

Dan, since you don't have your e-mail up on Modern View, I sent you a note through the Classic View. We can discuss it through e-mail.

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Allan In NE

08-13-2007 08:53:19

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Mike CA, 08-13-2007 08:47:04

lOl,

That's not a trike, Mike. It is a single. Trikes are the dual narrow wheels.

The 10 inch cast iron wheels don't bring much; maybe $35?

The H should have been equipped with a 16" stamped steel front single, which are worth about $150 today.

Allan

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RustyFarmall

08-13-2007 09:23:15

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Allan In NE, 08-13-2007 08:53:19

Allan, the single front on the H in the pic is correct. The stamped steel 16" singles were not available until the 460s and 560s came out.

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Allan In NE

08-13-2007 14:43:11

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-13-2007 09:23:15

Naw,

That single on Mike's tractor is for a little C or some such thing. I've seen 'em on other Hs and they just plain look wrong.

The Hs and Ms all were fitted with the 16 inch stamped steel wheel as far as I know. They were in production long, long before the 460.

Allan

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randy hall

08-13-2007 15:21:56

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Allan In NE, 08-13-2007 14:43:11

sorry allen but you are wrong on this one.

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Allan In NE

08-13-2007 16:46:53

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to randy hall, 08-13-2007 15:21:56

Dunno,

Stood there and watched two of 'em, brand spankin new, unloaded off the truck and rode those devils over hundreds and hundreds of acres planting, cultivating, ditching, rotary hoeing, cutting beans, pickin' corn, makin' hay and every other darned thing having to do with a farm.

When the 300s and 400s came out and subsequently the 460s and the 560s, everything we had was wide front.

But that old H with the original 16" single wheel was still going strong until I retired it in '75.

Allan

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randy hall

08-13-2007 17:38:47

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Allan In NE, 08-13-2007 16:46:53

allen i could show you a page from the parts book but i am in the middle of a honey do plumbing job right how, randy

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Allan in NE

08-13-2007 18:06:55

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to randy hall, 08-13-2007 17:38:47

randy hall said: (quoted from post at 17:38:47 08/13/07) allen i could show you a page from the parts book but i am in the middle of a honey do plumbing job right how, randy

Hey Ol' Bud,

We're not arguing, we're just vistin' over the fence.

Check the copyright on that parts book you have.
I was there in the 40s, as well as in '50, '51, '52 and '53 when "our" particular IH farm tractors were bought new.

Was that book around back then? I doubt it. :lol:

I dunno tho, maybe it's like Mike says and it was another one of those "regional" things?

Allan

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Ed Topel

08-13-2007 18:50:29

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Re: What is a single front wheel worth? in reply to Allan in NE, 08-13-2007 18:06:55

I think you both are right. From an original H and HV owners manual dated 1-1-47, under special attachments,Single Front Wheel- Pneumatic Tire Equipment "For Farmall H- Two attachments are available; one is for 6.50-16 inch tires and the other is for 7.50-10 inch tires". The only picture is of the 10 inch cast wheel so I don't know if the 16 inch was cast or pressed. Ed

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