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Lenthening SC WFE.

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Keith-OR

07-31-2007 20:57:21




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Well today I decided I better pull the tubes out of the WFE I bought for Shawn"s SC. I follow all Allan"s trials and tribulations with his WFE. Decided I was going to do it the easy way,(always the last words), well went to get my porta power,,GONE..:>((.. So headed to HF bought another 10T, got it home hookup everything...

Wa la had the tubes pushed out in less than an hour, with the right tools things seem to go right. 2 hours from start to finish...:>)

Keith & Shawn

almost finished.

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Keith-OR

08-01-2007 21:13:43




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 Re: Lenthening SC WFE. in reply to Keith-OR, 07-31-2007 20:57:21  
[quote="Hugh MacKay"](quoted from post at 17:30:52 08/01/07) Keith: I wouldn't advocate the porta power as the complete answer for every front end. I have seen porta powers snap the spindles and spindle housings right off the front end tube. If they are stuck solid enough, big tourches are the only answer. We just don't want folks thinking that is the ultimate answer. It's fine for the front ends that come apart reasonably easy. My advice to anyone using a porta power, once it's in there tight, make sure the tube moves an amount equal to the porta power every stroke.

Hugh, I understand your concern, I have been using a porta Power (hydraulics) for a good many years to remove and put on bearings and other seeminly unmoveable objects. They can be used incorrectly, as with the hot wrench, one can get materials TOO hot and cause more damage with a torch an the use of hydraulics. I am like Allan in Neb, would rather restort to almost any other means to get an object to move than using a torch.

If you will notice in the middle of picture you will see fairly large hammer, which I use to firmly tap tube to viberate and break loose the rust between axels tubes. Also this axel DID not come apart easy, I bent my extensions on my 4 ton porta power as tubes would not budge. That is when I went looking for my 10T that musta found legs and walked off.

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Hugh MacKay

08-02-2007 03:13:09




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 Re: Lenthening SC WFE. in reply to Keith-OR, 08-01-2007 21:13:43  
Keith: I also have a lot of years in this business. Did you read what I said? I've never seen a torched center tube go to the scrap pile. I have seen numerous front ends in the scrap from jacking.

You said you bent porta power extensions, how much did you bend the spindle housings? 3 months from now we'll be hearing how hard it is to steer the SC with wide front.



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Keith-OR

08-02-2007 18:29:03




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 Re: Lenthening SC WFE. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-02-2007 03:13:09  
Hugh I respect your opinion, BUT I have seen more equipment damage from a torch in the hands of individuals that had no idea how to use correct amount of heat and on what kind of material, than I have seen damaged from the use of hydraulics. There is more damage caused from too much heat and too big of a hammer on equipment than from steady pressure applied from hydraulics.

Keith & Shawn

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Hugh MacKay

08-02-2007 19:33:54




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 Re: Lenthening SC WFE. in reply to Keith-OR, 08-02-2007 18:29:03  
Keith: Precisely, and the same can be said about every tool, evey piece of equipment, etc. In the hands of the inexperienced they can do considerable damage. My point right from the beginning, there are wide front tubes out there that are never going to move without heat. No one tool is correct for every situation, and that was my point.

Same goes for you sighting Allan as an example in some of your posts. Don't get me wrong, Allan is a good addition to YT discussion, but remember one thing, he obvoiusly has the means to throw more money at a problem than 90% of the folks on here. It's a balancing act, and we try to give folks advice that they can live with financially.

I probably deal with 20-30 people on tractor problems every week via personal e mail, items that never make it to YT or any other discussion. I can tell you a lot of them don't have big bucks to toss around, they also can't afford to bust parts up in the salvage process. This is why I raise issues like your porta power, when I see them on YT. Fine to show the porta power use, just don't hold it up as the ultimate, it may require an assist.

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Hugh MacKay

08-01-2007 17:30:52




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 Re: Lenthening SC WFE. in reply to Keith-OR, 07-31-2007 20:57:21  
Keith: I wouldn't advocate the porta power as the complete answer for every front end. I have seen porta powers snap the spindles and spindle housings right off the front end tube. If they are stuck solid enough, big tourches are the only answer. We just don't want folks thinking that is the ultimate answer. It's fine for the front ends that come apart reasonably easy. My advice to anyone using a porta power, once it's in there tight, make sure the tube moves an amount equal to the porta power every stroke.

I've seen several center tubes crimson before the adjustable tubes let go. Those tubes that were heated crimson 20 years ago are still on tractors and I know one of them has a loader. Without heat, I've seen a few front ends go to the scrap heap.

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gene bender

08-01-2007 01:53:49




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 Re: Lenthening SC WFE. in reply to Keith-OR, 07-31-2007 20:57:21  
there is no better feeling than having the rite stuff to do the job and end results are always super glad it worked for ya.



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Janicholson

07-31-2007 22:19:16




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 Re: Lenthening SC WFE. in reply to Keith-OR, 07-31-2007 20:57:21  
The right tool is the difference between professional results and broken parts. I love 1000:1 hydraulic advantage. JimN



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